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Family: IMMIGRANT Giles1 Carter / Hannah Crew/Crews/Crewes (F4370)  [1, 2, 3, 4



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  • IMMIGRANT Giles1 CarterFather | Male
    IMMIGRANT Giles1 Carter

    Born  24 Apr 1635  Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
    Died  12 Feb 1700/01  Turkey Island, Henrico Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Buried     
    Married     
    Father   
    Mother   

    Mother | Female
    Hannah Crew/Crews/Crewes

    Born  Est 1655  Turkey Island, Henrico Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Died  1702  Varina, Henrico, Virginia  Find all individuals with events at this location
    Buried     
    Father  Captain James Crew/Crews/Crewes | F540 Group Sheet 
    Mother  Consort of James Crew/Crews | F540 Group Sheet 

    Suzannah 'Susan' CarterChild 1 | Female
    + Suzannah 'Susan' Carter

    Born  Abt 1674  Henrico Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Died  Yes, date unknown   
    Buried     
    Spouse  Daniel Price | F4371 
    Married  23 Jul 1676  Henrico Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Spouse  Thomas Williamson | F4372 
    Married  1 Jun 1696  Henrico Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location

    Mary CarterChild 2 | Female
    + Mary Carter

    Born  Abt 1673  Henrico Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Died  Aft 1732  Henrico Co., Virginia or Rowen, NC Find all individuals with events at this location
    Buried     
    Spouse  Thomas D. Davis | F518495181 
    Married  Bef 1685   
    Spouse  Thomas Totty | F4158 
    Married  Abt 1689  Henrico Co., Virginia? Find all individuals with events at this location

    Theodorick2 CarterChild 3 | Male
    + Theodorick2 Carter

    Born  23 Jul 1676  Turkey Island, Henrico Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Died  1 Apr 1737  Prince Edward Co., Colonial Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Buried     
    Spouse  Elizabeth Webb | F4373 
    Married  Bef 1697  Henrico Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location

    Hannah Ann CarterChild 4 | Female
    + Hannah Ann Carter

    Born  Abt 1677  Henrico Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Died  Bef 1767  Powhatan, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Buried     
    Spouse  James D. or [F.] Davis | F518495182 
    Married  Bef 1700   

    Giles2 'of Henrico' Carter, Jr.Child 5 | Male
    + Giles2 'of Henrico' Carter, Jr.

    Born  Abt 1681  Turkey Island, Henrico Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Died  1742  King George Co., Virginia Colony Find all individuals with events at this location
    Buried     
    Spouse  Mary Reeds | F4369 
    Married  1702  Henrico Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location

  • Notes 
    • HENRICO COUNTY DEEDS 1677-1705 There is due to Giles Carter, 800 acres for inportation of these persons: ......John Green......1 Jun 1687.


  • Sources 
    1. [S246] Maps, https://www.loc.gov/resource/g3880.ct000370/.
      A map of the most inhabited part of Virginia containing the whole province of Maryland with part of Pensilvania,[sic] New Jersey and North Carolina.
      Can be enlarged to show rivers, creeks, counties.

    2. [S100] Internet Source, Map of Formation of Virginia Counties 1615-present http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/countyformations/virginiaformationmaps.html.

    3. [S160] Correspondence, Nancy Simmons.
      Nancy Simmons, Nov 2017
      to me

      I checked the other day and didn?t see a Webb family DNA group. Hopefully there will be soon.
      One reason I got my son to do the DNA was because of the Carters. I am fascinated with the origins of Hannah ? Crews, that married Giles. It is true that if James Crews? partner had been white they would have been hauled into bastardy court when his partner became pregnant. The older family stories assume that she had to have been Native American because James Crews owned slaves so she could not have been black. So silly! Even free blacks sometimes owned slaves. His partner could have been a slave. I tried to trace Hannah?s daughters forward so we could find Hannah?s Mt-DNA, but lost them after about 2 generations.
      So, David?s DNA came back from Ancestry and the other type I sent to FTM-DNA (not the Y-DNA test) and he has absolutely no Native American but a small amount of ?North African? ? Whatever that means. The Simmons Y-DNA administrator tells me that not enough people have tested yet for those small percentages to be accurate, but someday it may mean something. Right now it seems that either James Crews was not Hannah?s father or her mother was some sort of Arab or Moor. Below is what I have on Giles and his son Theodoric.

      · Apr 1653 Mr Wm Fry used Giles Carter and 14 others as headrights to patent 750 acres of land on the "Chichamony" River- Cavaliers & Pioneers, Vol I, Nugent, p276

      · 1676 Will of John Rowen gives Giles the use of a house for 1 year and certain livestock including a cow and pigs.- Weisiger, Colonial Wills of Henrico Co, VA 1677-1737, p 219

      · Will of James Crewes of Turkey Island written 23 Jul 1676 makes bequests to Giles Carter, his wife Hannah and all their children. Crewes was about to be hanged for his part in Bacon's Rebellion. Crews' English relatives contested the will saying, " James Crewes had no 'lawful' wife or child." It is surmised that Hannah was Crews daughter by either an Indian woman or a Negro. (family DNA has zero Native American ethnicity but 1% North African) Had Hannah's mother been white, Crews and she would have been hauled into court for bastardy but those laws didn't apply if the woman was of a different race.- Some Southern Col Fam, Avant, p 154 June. For the Bastardy laws in Virginia see Anne Orwood's Bastard. Weisiger, Colonial Wills of Henrico Co, VA,1677-1737, p 9

      · 2 Jun 1679, Census for Turkey Island lists Giles Carter with 6 thithables (males 16 or over, and later also included female slaves or indentured servants.) Wm & Mary Qtly Vol V, p731

      · April 1680 deposition of Giles CARTER, aged about 46. [Order Book & Wills 1678-1693, p 57]

      · Oct 1688, 1780 acres on White Oak Swamp patented by Robert Woodson, Sr, Giles Carter, Richard Ferris, William Ferris and Roger Comeings jointly, but Wm Ferris and Roger Comeings never paid so the whole tract went to Woodson, Carter and Richard Ferris. Carter's part is next to the swamp where John Watson lives and next to Hambleton on the north side of the swamp- 600 Acres. recorded 2 Jun 1690- Weisiger, Henrico Deeds 1677-1705 , p57

      · Deposition given in Henrico county records in June 1680- Giles Carter declared that he was 46 years of age- Henrico Deeds 1677-1705, Weisiger, p 148

      · 25 Feb 1684, Giles and Hannah of Varina Parish Henrico sold some land on Turkey Isl. to Wm Randolph- L20 for 50 acres. And bought other land on Turkey Isl. mill run next to Wm Cocke and his brother John-L25 for 29 acres- ibid p 27, 28

      · 25 Feb 1684 Wm Cocke of Henrico sold 500 acres on Turkey Island, Mill Run to Giles- Avant, Some Southern Families, p 147

      · 1684: August 24, 1684. William Randolph, of Varina Parish, Henrico County, Gent., from Giles Carter and Hannah x, his wife, of Parish and county aforesaid, 20 pound sterling for 60 acres, which was by the last will and testament of Capt. James Crewes given unto said Giles and Hannah Carter, being part of ye dividend of land or plantation at Turkey Island of which said Crewes died seized, which tract of land or plantation is since purchased by said William Randolph of ye heir and executor of said Crewes, deceased, as by conveyance. Recorded April 1, 1685. [Valentine Papers, vol. iii, Randolph Family, p1392

      · ?1685: Wm Randolph, of Varina Parish, Henrico Co. Gent, from Giles Carter & Hannah __[x], his wife, of Parish & Co. afsd. 20pds strl. 60 a. which was by the last will & testatment of Capt. James Crewes [dated 23 August 1676] given unto sd. Giles & Hannah Carter being part of ye dividend of land or plantation at Turkey Island of which sd. Crewes died seized, wch. tract seized, wch. tract of land or plantation is since purchd. by sd. Wm. Randolph of ye heir & exor. of sd. Crews, decd. as by conveyance dated 24 Augt. 1684. Recd. 1 April 1685?. Ibid. p. 302 [Valentine Papers p. 1380]

      · 1 Feb 1685 was appointed by the court at Varina to appraise the estate of John Clyburn- ibid

      · 15 Mar 1685 Deposition of Robert Billington stated that Giles Carter had won 500 lbs of tobacco in a dice game.- Henrico Co. Records, Vol 2, p229

      · 4 Feb 1686 Giles was appointed surveyor for highways but he testifies that he is ancient, weak and sickly and asks to be released ( He was 52!). ibid

      · 1 Jun 1687 appointed to appraise and divide the estate of Will Humphrey- ibid

      · Court at Varina Jun 1687 granted Giles Carter 800 acres for the importation of 16 persons. Carter, W,G.H, Giles Carter of VA, p 41

      · In Oct 1687 Giles Carter with Richard Ferris and Robert Woodson patented 1780 acres in White Oak Swamp on Barr Hill and Deep Run, Varina- Tidewater Va Fam, Davis p 304, Valentine Vol I p451

      · 1 Aug 1694 Deed of gift to sons Theodorick and Giles- Index to Henrico Colonial Records Vol 2 p 201
      Theodoric

      · 2 Mar 1701, Theodorick of Henrico conveyed 50 acres in Henrico whereon said Carter dwells on N side of James River in place known as "Low Ground, adjoining land of said Carter's father Giles, decd, running along Turkey Island Run and given said Carter by his father Giles Carter-Valentine Vol III, p 1083

      · Will made 22 Jul 1736, probated first Monday in Apr 1737 in Henrico. Names wife Elizabeth, son Theodrick, son John, and daughter Mary. St Peter's Parish records the birth of another daughter weeks after the will was made, "Elizabeth, daughter of Theodrick and Elizabeth Carter, born Aug 22, bap Sep 26, 1736" - Giles Carter of VA, Gen Wm Giles Harding Carter, USA, Lord Baltimore Press, Balt, MD 1909, Also Henrico County Deed, Wills 1725-1737 No 1, Part 1,p 606, Library of VA, also VA Colonial Abstracts. Vol XXI, Henrico CO, Fleet p 80
      From: Mary Frances Eggleston [mailto:mfeggleston@gmail.com]
      Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017
      To: Nancy Simmons
      Subject: Re: Comments
      Mary Frances Eggleston
      to Nancy
      Nancy,
      My mother was a Carter descendant, so my dna [family finder] matched to Lemuel/Richard 'tailor' Carter. I did not pursue the other tests, as it would go to female lines. I do not show any Native American, all British; however another cousin had 23 & me, and hers did show a smidgen of Native American. It is my understanding that after so many generations, it would not show. DNA is not my strong suit, but we absolutely see two different dna groups for the descendants of the two sons of Giles Carter. Theodorick is one group, and Giles Jr. descendants test to another group. There are only a couple of reasons this would happen. My group is to Theodorick's dna.

      I do not have a theory about Hannah Crews; I have collected theories by genealogists much more talented than I am, and it makes sense that she may have been an Indian. But, I believe it is clear Giles had more than one wife and possibly other children not mentioned in his will. DNA studies make this an exciting time for genealogists.

      Thank you for your Carter info. I thought I had pulled every piece of paper available for them, but I had not seen these references -
      1 Feb 1685 was appointed by the court at Varina to appraise the estate of John Clyburn- ibid
      15 Mar 1685 Deposition of Robert Billington stated that Giles Carter had won 500 lbs of tobacco in a dice game.- Henrico Co. Records, Vol 2, p229

      That makes him seem human! With your permission I will post your info.
      http://www.reynoldspatova.org/getperson.php?personID=I7119&tree=reynolds1
      This is a link to my mother's data.
      Thanks again,
      me

    4. [S89] Facebook.
      Vickie Carter McKinley
      It looks like very little is known about Theodor. "Theodor Carter married a woman named Joane sometime before October 1633 (a child named Mary, daughter of Theodor Carter was baptised at Cirencester in October 1633 and was not named as a base child).
      Given that he married before 1633, it is likely that Theodor was born before 1613.
      Theodor Carter was buried at the church of St John the Baptist, Cirencester, Gloucestershire on 23 July 1643"