James Thomas Carter^[1]

Abt 1820 - Bef 1880  (~ 59 years)

• Name	James Thomas Carter
  	DNA from several male descendants test to Guthrie/Guthrey
  Born	Abt 1820	Halifax Co., Virginia
  Gender	Male
  Died	Bef 1880	Halifax County, Virginia
  Person ID	I67974	My Reynolds Line
  Last Modified	1 Jan 2023

  
  

  Family	Martha McCann,   b. 1822, Halifax Co., Virginia ,   d. 1885, Halifax Co., Virginia  (Age 63 years)
  Married	29 Dec 1843	Person County, North Carolina
  Children	+ 1. James Thomas Carter,   b. 3 Apr 1842, South Boston, Halifax Co., Virginia ,   d. 26 Aug 1943, Turbeville, Halifax Co., Virginia  (Age 101 years)   2. Mary Jane Carter,   b. 1844, Halifax Co., Virginia ,   d. 8 Aug 1887, Halifax County, Virginia  (Age 43 years) + 3. Callie A. Carter,   b. 1853, Halifax Co., Virginia ,   d. Yes, date unknown, Halifax, Virginia + 4. Joseph S. "G." Carter,   b. 17 Jan 1856, Halifax Co., Virginia ,   d. 8 Dec 1940, Sutherlin, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia  (Age 84 years)   5. John W. Carter,   b. Abt 1858, Halifax Co., Virginia ,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Last Modified	1 Jan 2023
  Family ID	F22722	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Documents » Slide Show		Cemetery Records for James T. Carter, h/o Carolyn Wesley Carter, Eliza A. Hill, 2nd wife of James T. Carter and Martha Ann [McCann] Carter, Mother of James T. Carter, and unmarked grave, likely the Senior James T. Carter, husband of Martha McCann 67292-9-5-Carters.jpg
  		James T. Carter and his Wife, Caroline Wesley Carter sell land to Addison Edwards in 1880 67974&6-7291 Addison Edwards Deed.pdf
  		1880 Census Halifax Co., VA/ Mt. Carmel James T. Carter and wife, Carolyn Westley Guthries listed on next page 679731880CenJamesT&CarolynWesleyHalifaxMtCarmel.jpg
  		Marriage Record Martha McCann & James Carter; Person Co., NC 67974-5MarthaMcCann&JamesCarter.jpg

  
  

• Notes

  James T. Carter m. Martha McCann; Martha Carter is shown on the 1850 Halifax Co., Census; Martha Carter again appears on the 1860 Census Halifax Co. and again in 1870; she is not shown with husband, although she is having children periodically; 1850 - Sou Dist Martha Carter 28 Mary J 6 James T 4 1860 Sou Dist Martha Carter 35 Mary 16 James 14 Sally 7 (I believe this is Callie Carter that married Thomas O. Carter) Jos. 5 Unnamed infant 3/12 1870 Mt Carmel Dist Martha 46 Caralee (?) illegible 17 (Callie?) Joe 15 John 10 Connie Springs texasmemom@gmail.com These named children are found on census records. Martha Carter's headstone/cemetery record show no maiden name; This James T. Carter married Martha McCann in Halifax and lived there all of his life. He and Martha sold land to family members, Addison Lafayette Edwards and his wife, Sallie Frances Powell, [d/o Mastin Powell,] in Halifax Co. Based on that fact, and the several other James T. Carters named for him, it is probable that he is family. Deeds define the relationships of Powells, Edwards, Carters, Wesleys who intermarry in Halifax in the 19th century are neighbors. The land he sold to Edwards is land owned by his wife's father, Paul Wesley. Addison Edwards, s/o James M. Edwards married Sarah Frances 'Sallie Fannie' Powell, eldest d/o Mastin Powell.

  
  

• Sources

  [S101] Connie Spring. Callie (3rd child) b. 1853 married Thomas O. Carter on December 11, 1871 in Caswell County. His parents- Richard Carter & Catherine Carter. Her parent Mother "Sally". (no father's name). I am guessing of course, but I suspect that she eloped with him since she was 17/18 and he was 44/45. They moved around a lot. In the 1880 census, Thomas is shown as age 53 and Callie is 28. John 7 was born in TN; James 4 born in Georgia; Robert 1, born in North Carolina and the daughter born later in Kentucky. The daughter Lucy married her first cousin Walter Carter s/o James T. and wife Caroline. In the 1880 census Callie is shown C. L. Carter and in the census (1870) it looks like her name is Caralee or something similar. 1860 census Sally (Callie) age 7; 1870 census Caralee ? age 17, and 1880 census C. L. age 28. The marriage is recorded in Family/Search. Conversations with Connie Spring [S170] Family Tree DNA, James Guthrey-Family Tree DNA. Ephraim Guthrie JAMES GUTHRIE Fri, Nov 26, 2021 to Stephanie, Andy, Janet, me Stephanie thinks the NPE occurred between the father and mother of James Thomas Carter Sr. and that Ephraim Guthrie, son of Cason Guthrie and Dorothy Reeves, grandson of Thomas Guthrie and Mary Cason, was the culprit. Maybe so. I tend to think it was a later occurrence when Martha McCann Carter had no husband and 5 children over about a 16 year period. That brings some other Guthries into play but it remains genetically of the same family. You might save this information to your files for future reference. YOU CAN RUN RIGHT DOWN THIS PROGRESSION: 1880 Census - Mt. Carmel District - Halifax Co., Virginia 558/589 EPHRAIM GUTHREY 86 WIDOWED Farmer VA/VA/VA NANCY GUTHREY 65 SINGLR Keep Hse VA/VA/VA PATTIE GUTHREY 60 SINGLE At Home VA/VA/VA (births of 1794, 1815, 1920) (at household 559/590 is Benjamin "Ben" Soloman who I think is his nephew, son of Lavenia Guthrie and Reuben Soloman) ************************************************** Death Name Betsy Guthrie Sex Female Age 50 Death Date 14 Oct 1875 Death Place Halifax, Virginia Birth Year (Estimated) 1825 Birthplace Mt. Carmel Marital Status Single Race White Ethnicity American Father's Name Ephaim Guthrie Father's Sex Male Mother's Name Nancy Guthrie Mother's Sex Female ************************************************** 1870 Census - Mt. Carmel District - Halifax Co., Virginia Census Name Ephraim Genteise Sex Male Age 76 Event Date 1870 Event Place Mount Carmel, Halifax, Virginia Birth Year (Estimated) 1794 Birthplace Virginia Race White Page Number 15 Other People on This Record Patsy Genteise F 40 Virginia Betsy Genteise F 38 Virginia Nancy Genteise F 30 Virginia Alexander Genteise M 29 Virginia Pattie Genteise F 29 Virginia Bettie Genteise F 0 Virginia (Yes, the Godfather himself! The Genteise Family or more appropriately, the GUTHRIE family) ************************************************** 1860 Census - Southern District - Halifax Co., Virginia 750/731 EPHRAIM GUTHRIE 70 M Farmer PATSY GUTHRIE 40 F ELIZABETH GUTHRIE 38 F NANCY GUTHRIE 29 F ALEX GUTHRIE 18 M (births of 1790.1820, 1822, 1831, and 1842) (Alexander Guthrie is Ephraim Guthrie's grandson, son of Ephraim Guthrie's son James H. Guthrie) (at household 749/730 is William H Hudgins and wife, Doretha H. (Soloman) Hudgins, 4 of their children, and his in-laws, Reuben Soloman, 80 M, and wife Viney (Guthrie) Soloman, 70 F) ************************************************** DEATH Name Nancy Guthrie Sex Female Age 70 Death Date Apr 1860 Death Place Halifax, Virginia Birth Year (Estimated) Apr 1790 Birthplace Halifax, Virginia Marital Status Married Race White Ethnicity American Father's Name Robert Blackwell Father's Sex Male Mother's Name E. Blackwell Mother's Sex Female Spouse's Name Ephraim Guthrie Spouse's Sex Male ************************************************** 1850 Census -Southern District - Halifax Co., Virginia 891/891 REUBEN SOLOMAN 70 M LAVENIA SOLOMAN 65 F SUSAN SOLOMAN 20 F 892/892 JAMES A. GUTHRIE 24 M THOMAS GUTHRIE 60 M 898/898 LETITIA GUTHRIE 57 F ANN GUTHRIE 19 F (No Ephraim Guthrie to be found but I suspect he is in this general vicinity) ************************************************** 1840 Census - Soutern District _ Halifax Co., Virginia page 54 - position #28 EPHRAIM GUTHRIE 1 Male 40 & under 50 3 Females 23 and under 30 1 Female 50 & under 59 ALSO: page 54 - position #15 WILLIAM GUTHRIE 2 Males under 5 1 Male 20 & under 29 1 Female 20 & under 29 (as you know, this is my great, great grandfather) page 54 - position #2 REUBEN SOLOMAN 1 Male 10 & under 15 1 Male 15 & under 20 2 Males 20 & under 29 1 Male 40 & under 50 1 Female 10 & under 15 1 Female 20 & under 29 1 Female 40 & under 40 (Mrs. Reuben Soloman is Ephraim Guthrie's sister) ALSO: page 55 - position #4 LETTY GUTHRIE 2 Males 5 & under 10 1 Male 10 & under 15 1 Female 40 & under 49 (this is Ephraim Guthrie's spinster sister, Letticia Guthrie) page 57 - position #28 THOMAS GUTHRIE 2 Males 15 & under 20 1 Male 40 & under 50 1 Female 40 & under 50 (as you know, this is Ephraim Guthrie's brother) ************************************************** 1830 Census - Southern District - Halifax Co., Virginia page 397 - position #10 EPHRAIM GUTHREY 1 Male under 5 1 Male 10 & under 15 1 Male 40 & under 50 3 Females 10 & under 15 1 Female 30 & under 40 page 397 - position #9 THOMAS GUTHREY 1 Male 5 & under 10 1 Male 10 & under 15 1 Male 30 & under 40 1 Female 10 & under 15 1 Female 30 & under 40 page 397 - position #12 CASON GUTHREY 1 Male 20 & under 30 1 Male 30 & under 40 1 Male 60 & under 70 3 Females 20 & under 30 1 Female 30 & under 40 1 Female 50 & under 60 page 398 - position #4 LETTY GUTHREY 1 Male 10 & under 15 2 Females under 5 ! Female 5 & under 10 1 Female 20 & under 30 ************************************************** 1820 Census - Meadville District - Halifax Co., Virginia page 88 - position #20 EPHRAIM GUTHREY 1 Male under 10 1 Male 26-45 3 Females under 10 1 Female 26-45 page 69 - position #7 THOMAS GUTHREY 1 Male under 10 1 Male 26-45 1 Female under 10 1 Female 26-45 (No idea about the whereabouts of Cason Guthrie) ************************************************* MARRIAGE Name Ephraim Guthrey Sex Male Spouse's Name Nancy Blackwell Spouse's Sex Female Marriage Date 18 Dec 1809 Marriage Place Halifax, Virginia Source Details P71 ************************************************** 1790, 1800, & 1810 Censuses for Halifax Co., Virginia were destroyed by the British. [S170] Family Tree DNA. Y-111 DNA MATCHES JAMES GUTHRIE Dec 31, 2022, 12:02 PM (1 day ago) to Andy, Brian, Debbie, Gayle, Janet, me, Peggy, Phil, William, Stephanie, Steven HOT OFF THE PRESSES, THESE ARE MY LATEST Y-DNA RESUILTS AT THE TOP TESTING LEVEL OF 111 MARKERS. THANKS TO DR. STEVEN CARTER OF GREENWOOD, SC FOR UPGRADING HIS FATHER JOE'S SAMPLE. Y-DNA IS CONSISTENTLY MAINTAINED FOR THE FIRST TWO WIVES OF JAMES THOMAS CARTER JR. (CAROLINE WESLEY & ELIZA HILL) INDICATING THAT JAMES THOMAS CARTER JR. IS, GENETICALLY, A GUTHRIE AND ALL FORWARD DESCENDANTS ARE GUTHRIES. AS THE SAYING GOES, A CARTER BY NAME ONLY. MORE RESEARCH IS REQUIRED TO DETERMINE WHEN THE INTRUSION OCCURRED BUT THIS LATEST NEWS VERIFIES THAT IT DID OCCUR AND THAT SPANNING TWO FAMILY UNITS, WITHOUT CHANGE, IS PROOF POSITIVE THAT ANDY'S INITIIAL RESULTS FROM EARLIER THIS YEAR WERE SPOT-ON. THE CARTERS FROM WHICH ALL OF YOU DESCEND HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN GUTHRIES, AT LEAST FROM THE FIRST HALF OF THE 19th CENTURY UNTIL PRESENT DAY. ANDY'S TOP 6 MATCHES James Guthrie 108 of 111/Joe Carter 108 of 111/Carlton Guthrie 108 of 111/ Ron Guthrie 106 of 111/Jerry Guthrie 106 0f 111/Harry Guthrie 106 of 111 JOE'S TOP 6 MATCHES Andy Carter 108 of 111/James Guthrie 106 of 111/Carlton Guthrie 106 of 111/ Jerry Guthrie 106 of 111/Harry Guthrie 106 of 111/Ron Guthrie 104 of 111 JAMES'S TOP 6 MATCHES Carlton Guthrie 111 of 111/Andy Carter 108 of 111/Ron Guthrie 107 of 111/ Harry Guthrie 107 of 111/Jerry Guthrie 107 of 111/Joe Carter 106 of 111 (8 OTHER MATCHES BETWEEN 101 & 105, 1 GUTHRIE, 1 KELLY, 1 McCARTER, 5 VAUGHAN) RON'S TOP 6 MATCHES Carlton Guthrie 107 of 111/James Guthrie 107 of 111/Andy Carter 106 of 111/ Jerry Guthrie 105 of 111/Harry Guthrie 105 of 111/Joe Carter 104 of 111 Ronald Burton Guthrie (Ron) lives in Ontario, Canada. His great-grandfather, James D. Guthrie, was a tobacco buyer for some of the larger tobacco manufacturers and worked the markets in and around Danville, Virginia. In 1924, he was offered the opportunity to work the Canadian tobacco markets as a buyer and he went there after the close of the American markets that year. He liked Canada and never came back. Ron has a documented paper trail to his great-grandfather, James D. Guthrie (born 1875, Halifax Co., VA.) to Alexander Guthrie to James H. Guthrie to Ephraim Guthrie to Cason Guthrie to Thomas Guthrie I (died and left will in 1786, Halifax Co., VA.).