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Frances Walters[1]

Female Abt 1736 - Aft 1803  (~ 68 years)


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  • Name Frances Walters 
    • I expect she is Mary Frances; she names her daughter so.
    Born Abt 1736  Brunswick Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Female 
    Died Aft 1803  Pittsylvania County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Her marriage to James Lucas
    Person ID I17167  My Reynolds Line | Descendants of Richard 'Gunsmith' Carter, Descendants of William Walters
    Last Modified 14 May 2022 

    DNA Tests  3 people have linked a DNA test to Frances Walters 

    Father William Walters,   b. Abt 1722, Bristol Parish, Brunswick Co., Colonial Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Mother Susannah McBee/Magby/Mocobee/Mocaboy/McGehee/McGregor,   b. Est 1720, Brunswick Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown, Halifax Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F6005  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Richard 'Gunsmith' dna Carter,   b. Abt 1730, Henrico Co., Colonial Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef Jul 1787, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 57 years) 
    Married
    • NOTE: The name Ewell is passed down this line for several generations. It is even misspelled as Yewel in one case. This is further evidence of Frances Walters identity.

      Marriages of Pittsylvania County: Lucy Carter + Oliver Hall [Bondsman Spencer Carter] 9 Dec 1818
    Children 
     1. Richard s/o Frances Walters Carter,   b. Est 1754,   d. Yes, date unknown
    +2. Mary Frances [dna] Carter,   b. Abt 1755, Halifax Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1820, Halifax, Virginia or Maury, Tennessee Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 64 years)
    +3. George Carter,   b. Abt 1758, Henrico, Virginia Colony Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    +4. Presley Carter,   b. Abt 1762, Albermarle Co., Colonial Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1840, Jefferson Co., Tennessee Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 78 years)
     5. Levin Carter,   b. Abt 1771, Halifax Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown, Pittsylvania County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
     6. Travis Carter,   b. 20 Oct 1773, Halifax County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    +7. Charles Ewell dar Carter,   b. 2 Oct 1775, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 May 1854, Grayson Co., Kentucky Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 78 years)
    +8. Elizabeth Carter,   b. Abt 1778, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 12 Sep 1857, Green County, Kentucky Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 79 years)
    +9. Spencer dna Carter,   b. 11 Sep 1783, Caroline Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 10 Jul 1861, Pittsylvania Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 77 years)
    Last Modified 18 Apr 2021 
    Family ID F518494803  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Sgt. James Lucas,   b. 1760, Prince George's Co., Colonial Maryland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1820, Halifax Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 60 years) 
    Married 19 Dec 1803  Halifax County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Last Modified 13 May 2022 
    Family ID F6115  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Documents
    Halifax Census 1810 Dionitia Carter (nee Townes) and Frances Carter, (nee Walters) in adjacent households and John Cook several households away.
    Halifax Census 1810 Dionitia Carter (nee Townes) and Frances Carter, (nee Walters) in adjacent households and John Cook several households away.
    1810CensusHalifaxVA15506DionitiaCarter(neTownes).jpg
    Zimmerman Research on the Walters Family
Descendants of William Walters
    Zimmerman Research on the Walters Family Descendants of William Walters
    Walters_Zimmerman.pdf
    Carters in Pittsylvania Co. Virginia; Nealys; McClanahan; Terrys; Jefferson; Clays; Walters and others
    Carters in Pittsylvania Co. Virginia; Nealys; McClanahan; Terrys; Jefferson; Clays; Walters and others
    Pittsylvania Co. DB 1-2-3-CARTERS.pdf

  • Notes 
    • By proving who she is NOT, Frances Walters, wife of the Gunsmith. She is not Frances Neal; the Neals located in this part of Halifax are of the 'Beaverpond of Amelia Neals' The d/o William and Martha Neal married Samuel Carter. His daughter, Louisiana Franklin, married Thomas David Neal of the same family of Beaverpond Neals. So there was an association between the Carters and these Neals; but not to the Gunsmith, and certainly not to the Daniel Neales.

      I also considered the Watkins of Chickhomany Creek and Swift Creek; location of Giles families very early, but no found connection to the Gunsmith.

      Some member of the Walters family is shown singed, [witness] on every document signed by Richard and George and Frances Carter. [denotes a family member]

      The Walters are documented with 4 Magby wives. Why else would Richard Elijah Carter, s/o Spencer Carter name one of his children with the middle name Magby, if his grandmother, Francis Carter is not a Magby. [The Magbys are Scottish immigrants who travel from Charles Co., MD]

      This preponderance of circumstantial evidence and thorough research into the families around her, has led me to conclude Frances Walters married Richard Gunsmith Carter and after his death, James Lucas. She is the daughter of William Walters and Susannah Magby [Mockbee, etc]

      Son, Charles Ewell Carter marries back into the Walters.

      Dna matches for Stephanie Pletcher and Philip Carter, both descendants suggest the ancestor, Richard Carter, Gunsmith is of the Giles Carter lines.
    • Son, Charles Ewell Carter names daughter Lucy Walters Carter; his wife Kesiah Walters, and Frances Carter (nee Walters) are relatives. Moreover, after studying this family for many years and observing the naming patterns employed by them, I have concluded that Frances Walters [wife of Richard Carter, Gunsmith] is very likely the granddaughter of Immigrant, Charles Ewell. The name Ewell is passed down for several generations among her descendants, as is the Magby name for her grandmother, Susannah Magby.
    • Frances Carter, Widow of Richard GS Carter married James Lucas, the father of her son's wife [Spencer Carter, m. Verlinda Lucas, d/o James.]

  • Sources 
    1. [S3] Mary Frances Reynolds Eggleston.
      We have now proven the lines of several of the children of Frances and Richard Carter; they prove both DNA and a paper trails, as the sons of Richard Carter who was a gunsmith, not the Barford lines as purported in the Books. I have concluded her identity is that of Walters who lived alongside the Richard Carters. Walters documentation with witnesses of Richard and George to their deeds, include Walters who sign as witness to Richard Carter's inventory and other land deeds. No single document identifies Frances, but a preponderance of circumstantial evidence is found among the individuals who would be her siblings. The name Spencer is found among these families, as is Ewell. Further development of these lines will probably reveal other names of her children who are derived from her Walters relatives.

    2. [S170] Family Tree DNA, https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/carter/activity-feed.
      Richard Hulan
      By the way Carter Group R1b-08 is also in the DF27 descent tree, but I believe only one member (#22975) has had a BigY test. This would be the descent sequence for members of that branch: R-P312>ZZ11>DF27>Z195>Z274>Z209>FGC83504>Z295>
      Z270>Z211>Z297>Z278>BY36223

      Carter Group R1b-02 has had a couple of BigY testers, and is on the same side of the DF27 tree as R1b-08 -- downstream of Z295 -- but is not, by a long shot, on the same branch. Those Carter "cousins" diverged around 4,000 years ago, clearly not in Virginia, and probably not on the large island that would become England. And the name Carter wasn't a thing, yet, even as an occupation.

    3. [S170] Family Tree DNA, https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/carter/about/results.
      Family Tree DNA
      Mary Eggleston
      Keith Carter
      I am working on Group R1b - 08 with several connections in Halifax and Pittsylvania Counties. If you can add any information I would appreciate it. The connections would be to the brothers Spencer Carter, Thompson Carter or John [Charles] Ewell Carter. Spencer Carter is definitely not of the Thomas Carter of Barford line.
      Contact: Tommy Carter [mtba777 AT aol.com] Y-DNA Kit # 22975 (R1b-08) Big Y test completed

      0 Spencer Carter b Bet. 1776 -1777 VA d 11 Jul 1861 in Pittsylvania Co VA
      + Verlinda Lucas b Bet. 1787 - 1788; m 18 Dec 1804 Halifax Co VA d Apr 1850 in Pittsylvania Co VA

      1 Thompson Carter b 08 Aug 1808 in Pittsylvania Co VA, d 05 May 1857 in Madison Co TN
      + Nancy W. Yancey b 06 Apr 1805 in Halifax Co VA; m 03 Jan 1831 in Halifax Co VA d 12 Nov 1858 in Madison Co TN

      2 Thompson Carter b 08 Aug 1808 in Pittsylvania Co VA, d 05 May 1857 in Madison Co TN
      + Nancy W. Yancey b 06 Apr 1805 in Halifax Co VA; m 03 Jan 1831 in Halifax Co VA d 12 Nov 1858 in Madison Co TN

      3 William Y. (ancey) Carter b 24 May 1837 in Halifax Co VA or Madison Co TN d 29 May 1864 in Madison Co TN
      + Mary Ann Lackey b 16 Jan 1838 in Madison Co TN; m 12 Mar 1859 in Madison Co TN d 14 Apr 1870 in Henry Co TN

      4 William Thomas A. (lexander) Carter b Jan 1861 in Medon, Madison Co TN d 19 Aug 1936 in Jackson, Madison Co TN
      + Mary Alexander Spencer b 24 Mar 1857 in Probably McNairy Co TN; m 24 Jan 1884 in Jackson, Madison Co TN d 25 Mar 1948 in Jackson, Madison Co TN

      5 Lee Mitchell Carter Sr. b 17 Oct 1886 in Jackson, Madison Co TN, d 18 Jun 1966 in Greenville, Washington Co MS
      + Bertha Eliza Turner b 31 Aug 1893 in Belzoni, Washington Co MS; m 07 Sep 1921 in Belzoni, Humphreys Co MS d 18 Jan 1981 in Belzoni, Humphreys Co MS

      6 Lee Mitchell Carter Jr. b 05 Oct 1922 in Belzoni, Humphreys Co MS d 07 Jun 1998 in At Home, Sulphur Springs Community, Jefferson Co AR
      + Billie Roxine Tomlinson - Private

      7 William Tomlinson Carter b Pine Bluff, Jefferson Co AR
      Like Richard Hulan likes this Richard Hulan

      1 Recent New Member
      Contact: Frank Carter [fgcarter1 AT gmail.com] yDNA Kit # 194790 Group R1b - 08

      0 Spencer Carter b 13 Mar 1776 VA d 10 Jul 1861 Pittsylvania Co VA
      + Verlinda Virginia Lucas b 1781; m 18 Dec 1804 Halifax Co VA

      1 Alexander Carter b 1819 VA d 1858 NC
      + Martha Ann Lyon b 10 May 1820 Pittsylvania Co VA; m 30 May 1840 Pittsylvania Co VA d 13 Feb 1885 Rockingham Co NC

      2 William Spencer Carter b 31 May 1841 Pittsylvania Co VA d 14 Jun 1896 Rockingham Co NC
      + Cornelia Lea Guerrant b 16 Feb 1845 Ruffin, Rockingham Co NC; m 05 Sep 1863 Rockingham Co NC d 10 Mar 1926 Ruffin, Rockingham Co NC

      3 James Horace Carter b 14 Apr 1867 Oregonville, Rockingham Co NC d 20 Apr 1941 Ruffin, Rockingham Co NC
      + Bessie Borum b 10 Apr 1880 Keysville, VA; m 25 Oct 1905 Rockingham Co d 1967 Ruffin, Rockingham Co NC

      4 Frank Guerrant Carter b 13 Dec 1914 Ruffin, Rockingham Co NC d 15 Mar 1999 Wilmington, New Hanover Co NC
      + Dura B. Shelton ? Private
      5 Frank G. Carter - Private

    4. [S46] Marriage Record/Certificate, http://genealogytrails.com/vir/halifax/marriages3.html.
      James Lucas + Frances Carter (nee Walters)
      Lucas, James + Carter, Frances December 19, 1803
      Spencer, her youngest child is now 20 years old and planning his own wedding to Verlinda Lucas [18 Dec 1804] He has probably established his own residence, when his mother remarried the year before.