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Elizabeth Haynes Cary 'Betsy' Bigger[1]

Female Abt 1755 - Yes, date unknown


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  • Name Elizabeth Haynes Cary 'Betsy' Bigger 
    • Chancery Court Case 1857-001 William F. Scott (1814-167) was the son of Samuel Scott and Elizabeth Biggers/Biggars AND the grandson of Revolutionary War veteran William F. Scott and Mary Baker.

      In an 1832 application for a pension for his service during the Revolutionary War, William F. Scott stated that he was born on the 3rd of December 1757 in Ireland. Supporting evidence and place of birth; the family Bible in his possession.

      In 1850, William F. Scott (1814-1867) household included Mary Meadows born in 1776. A recorded visitor to this household was Mary Meadows' niece, Mary J. Meadows Tatum. Mary J. was the daughter of Austin and Mary Meadows. Austin and Mary) were a member of Briery Church and the children of James Meadows.

      Footnote: Samuel Scott and Elizabeth Biggers had three children: William F. Scott 1814-1867 (children via Betsy Lyle source: Will), Samuel J. Scott (b, abt 1818) who married Frances J. Watson (daughter of Jesse Watson and Mary Meredith) and Louisa Henry Scott (1811-1831) who married James Whitehead (John Whitehead II and Martha "Patty" Baker).
    Born Abt 1755  Prince Edward County, Virginia Colony Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Female 
    Died Yes, date unknown  Prince Edward Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I11834  My Reynolds Line
    Last Modified 31 Jul 2017 

    Father John Bigger, Sr.,   b. Est 1728, Goochland, Virginia Colony Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1814, Prince Edward Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 86 years) 
    Mother Elizabeth Haynes Cary,   b. Est 1722, Prince Edward County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Family ID F518495685  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Capt. Samuel Scott,   b. 1775, Prince Edward County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1852, Prince Edward Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 77 years) 
    Married 18 Nov 1806  Prince Edward County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
    +1. Louisa Henry Scott,   b. Est 1811, Prince Edward County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Dec'd 1855, Prince Edward Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 44 years)
     2. Samuel Joseph Scott,   b. Est 1818, Prince Edward County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown, Halifax Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
     3. William F. Scott,   b. Est 1814, Prince Edward County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aug 1867, Prince Edward County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 53 years)
    Last Modified 20 Mar 2017 
    Family ID F518495683  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Documents
    Marriages
    Marriages
    Prince Edward Co., Virginia
    1754-1810
    Cover
    Marriage Record for Elizabeth H.C. Bigger and Samuel Scott
    Marriage Record for Elizabeth H.C. Bigger and Samuel Scott
    _P ECo. MarriageSamuel Scott & Eliz Bigger.pdf

  • Notes 
    • http://genforum.genealogy.com/biggers/messages/67.html

      Thomas Bigger was the son of John Bigger and Elizabeth Cary. Thomas Bigger's sister, Elizabeth H.C.Bigger married Samuel Scott, son of Thomas Scott and Elizabeth Osborne in 1806.

      imshedevil2001
      Posted: 17 Sep 2012 1:31AM GMT

      ***************************

      There is much information and discussion on the Bigger(s) families located at Genforum at this address:

      http://genforum.genealogy.com/biggers/messages/67.html



    • GenForum


      Mike Hughes Date: March 09, 1999 at 19:52:02
      of 792

      Resa Hennings would like for me to post this information on the Genforum for her. If you have any questions please contact her at

      hennings@firstnethou.com

      At long last, here's my "book report" on what I found in Salt Lake
      last month.

      In the Joseph Smith Building library (not the main Family History
      Center building) I found a hardbound book titled "The Biggers Family"
      by Jeanette Kathleen Biggers Daniels, AG (and I believe she has a PhD
      in something). There is no date, nor publisher. But according to
      the stamp on the front of the book, the FHC microfilmed it May 24,
      1993. And handwritten on the front page is a note from Jeannette
      Daniels that says, "This book is donated through Know Your Heritage,
      a non-profit historical organization. This book may be used by any-
      one researching the Biggers family but may not be reproduced for
      profit. This research was sponsored by Jeannette Kathleen Biggers
      Daniels and Dr. Eugene Morrison" (to whom she dedicates the book).

      The Table of Contents says:

      Introduction
      The Family in Scotland
      The Family in Ireland
      The Family in America
      Sources
      for the Scottish and Irish Sections
      for the American Section
      Index for the American Section
      Index for the Irish Section
      Index for the Scottish Section

      The above covers 113 pages (which are numbered), then there are 114
      more pages (not numbered) which list various sources in Ireland,
      pedigree chart of the author's line, blank (?) Family Group Sheets,
      a picture section, some life stories of various Biggers, and a copy
      of a page of the 1820 Mecklenburg Co VA census and two copies about
      a Joseph Bigger's Revolutionary War pay.


      When we chatted, Jeanette said that while researching this family,
      she discovered the surnames "Biggers" and "Fleming" were basically
      interchangeable in the very early years (like during the 1100s-1600s
      in Scotland). And she also said that the tartans for these two
      surnames are IDENTICAL, to this date. Apparently the BIGGERS
      originally came from Flanders, the county/area/province in Belgium.
      They went on to Scotland where they were kind of known as the
      Flemish Biggers, or Fleming Biggers.

      She especially mentioned an Alexander FLEMING, off the top of her
      head, and said that c1650 he went directly from Scotland to VA,
      possibly to Westmoreland Co., she couldn't recall, AND THAT he was
      called "Alexander SCOTT" in those early days in VA.

      >From my understanding, the area where the Flemish people went to
      in Scotland is today's town of "Biggars". I found it in the atlas--
      teeny town located at 55.38N 3.32W, south of and between Glascow and
      Edinburgh.

      The first Bigger that is discussed is Baldwin (Baldwin Flamingus of
      Biggar) b c1100. "He was a Flemish leader who obtained a grant of
      lands of Biggar from David I (b c1080 d 1153). Baldwin was the
      first landowner of Biggar that records can be found for. He was
      the Sheriff of Lanarkshire, Scotland." She also notes that, "All
      Scottish information comes from "Bigger and the House of Fleming,"
      by William Hunter unless otherwise stated. This book can be found
      in the Genealogical Society." I'm not sure which "Genealogical
      Society" she's referring to though.

      I'm not going to go through the lineage all those "ancient" people,
      but some of the names are interesting, coming forward in time:
      Hugh of Biggar, Robert of Biggar, Sir Malcolm Fleming of Biggar,
      Robert Fleming, Robert Fleming of Biggar, William Flandrensis of
      Biggar, Patrick Fleming, Fleming of Bigger, Elizabeth Fleming,
      Alexander Fleming, David Fleming. Notice how the "Biggar/Bigger"
      gets dropped and "Fleming" comes into being? I find this to be an
      extremely important point we should keep in mind during our own
      research.

      Another source Jeanette cites is "The Complete Peerage," but I
      could not find where she may have listed an author's name.

      {I am going to give several lines of BIGGERS which are not ours,
      just to provide some overall information on the surname. Plus
      I've found it often helps in research to be able to eliminate
      "them" from "us," when trying to sort out our own particular line
      from a bunch of people who all have the same last name but not
      all are blood kin.}

      The next section of the book is "The Family in Ireland." It seems
      there were three or four brothers: Michael, John, James, and
      probably William BIGGER. The first three were all b 1610s-1620 in
      Scotland. Next listed are many other BIGGERs of this same genera-
      tion who cannot be connected to the brothers. All these people
      are b, m + d in Ireland, many in County Antrim. Some of them came
      to America in the 1800s.

      Next section is "The Family in America": the first family men-
      tioned is that of Matthew BIGGER b c1700-1710s, m Martha, d Ireland.
      The widow, Martha BIGGER, went to the US in 1773, where she d and
      is buried at Candor, PA. Six ch are listed for Matthew and Martha,
      all being b c1720s-1730s Ireland and all coming to America: 1-Samuel
      m#1 Abigail WILSON m#2 Nancy DENNISON; 2-John; 3-Elizabeth, 4-James,
      5-Jane, 6-Thomas. No info is given on where they settled.

      The next family discussed consists of three brothers, Joseph,
      William, and John BIGGER.

      1. "Joseph BIGGER b 1722 Antrim Co Ireland. Some
      researchers have believed that this Joseph Bigger
      lived in Prince Edward Co, VA for a while before
      coming to the North and South Carolina border.
      There are no records to show that this is the path
      that he took. I believe that this tradition started
      because there was a Biggers family living in Prince
      Edward Co, VA at the time that Joseph came to America.
      That family has been traced to another Biggers family
      that came to America in the 1600s. If there is a
      relationship, it would be very remote and back in
      Scotland many generations ago. Joseph m Sarah --.
      Some have suggested that her last name was HARRIS
      and others claim BARBER. ([author's] NOTE: I have
      never seen any proof for either of these last names.)
      She appears to have been about 20 years younger than
      Joseph was. He d 1786 in York Co, SC. Sarah d 1811
      in Williamson Co, TN."

      Twelve pages of Joseph's descendants come next, which is Jeanette's
      line.


      2. "William BIGGER came to America from Ireland in the
      1750s. He landed in Pennsylvania according to family
      tradition but left immediately for Prince Edward Co, VA.
      He did not stay there long either but went to NC. He
      arrived there about 1762-64. He moved with other close
      relatives. He was born c1713 in Ulster, County Antrim,
      Ireland and died in 1780. He m Sarah JULIAN who was
      b 1717 or 1720 in Ulster."

      Five pages of William's descendants follow.


      3. "John BIGGER b 1720. He m Mary PORTER. He d 1766. She
      d after 1775. She was on a land record with her son,
      Matthew, in Mecklenburg Co., NC in 1775."

      About six pages of John's descendants are listed.

      * * * *
      Section titled: "OTHER BIGGERS FAMILIES THAT CAME TO AMERICA
      DIRECTLY FROM SCOTLAND."

      William BIGGER
      b 1650 Scotland, lived New Kent Co, VA
      d 1679 VA [author's comment: "(sic) This death date has got to be
      wrong because the parish register that recorded the births of
      his two sons started in 1680."]
      m Martha WOODWARD b 1652 d 1727
      2 ch:
      1. John BIGGER b c1683 New Kent Co, VA
      2. William BIGGER
      b c1684 St. Peter's Parish, New Kent Co, VA; was in Hanover Co,
      VA 1711-1735
      d Oct 1769 VA
      m Martha -- , she was m#1 to Gideon MACON m#2 to Nathaniel WEST
      4 ch:
      1. Mary BIGGER (probable daughter)
      b c1725/35
      m 1740s John WATSON
      2. William BIGGER
      b 1720 Goochland Co, VA; he was in Spotsylvania Co, VA in 1784
      along with Meacon BIGGERS, as a witness to a will; he first
      appears in Louisa Co, VA records in 1743
      d will probated 14 Feb 1785 Louisa Co, VA
      m Martha POLLARD, b 1725 New Kent Co, VA d Oct 1769
      Louisa Co, VA
      7 ch:
      1. David BIGGER
      b c1756 VA
      d 1804 (probate appraisal date was 9 Jul 1804 Louisa Co, VA)
      m Elizabeth FERGUSON d aft 1813
      2 ch:
      1. William BIGGER
      b 10 May 1776 VA
      d 30 Jul 1843 Perry, Rolls Co, MO {this should be
      "Ralls" Co, I believe--RNH}
      m 16 Jul 1807 Matilda HARRISON, b 2 May 1792 d 23 Mar 1886
      9 ch:
      1. Polly BIGGERS m Girard FAGAN
      2. Hiram Louis BIGGER
      b 23 Jun 1817 KY
      d 22 Feb 1883 Perry, Ro/alls Co, MO
      m#1 Mary Eliza HARRISON
      1 ch: George BIGGER
      m#2 27 Mar 1856 Catherine HULSE, b 21 Apr 1837
      d 21 Apr 1893 Ro/alls Co, MO
      7 ch:
      1. Samuel Louis BIGGER
      2. Thomas Anderson BIGGERS
      3. Susan Elizabeth BIGGERS
      4. Benjamin Franklin BIGGERS
      5. Mark/Markena? P. BIGGERS
      6. Matilda BIGGERS
      7. Alice BIGGERS
      3. Harrison BIGGERS
      b 11 Nov 1808 Montgomery Co, KY
      d 26 Aug 1882
      4. William BIGGERS
      b 8 Jan 1810
      d 27 Mar 1893
      5. Louisa BIGGERS
      b 18 Feb 1812
      d 5 Oct 1841
      6. Joseph BIGGERS
      b 4 Mar 1814
      7. Dulcernal BIGGERS (female)
      b 17 Aug 1819
      d 30 Jun 1873
      8. Sally Ann BIGGERS
      b 26 May 1821
      9. George H. BIGGERS
      b 15 May 1827
      d 3 Sep 1847
      2. James BIGGER (probable son)
      b 1790 VA {?date?--RNH}
      d 1860
      m Mary -- , b 1792 d 1869
      1 ch:
      James W. BIGGER
      b c16 Jun 1818 Cumberland Co, KY
      d 1899 Marion Co, MO
      m Warren Co, MO Miss PAINTER
      1 ch:
      William Henry (Frisky?/Frisbee?) BIGGERS
      b c1850 Marion Co, MO
      d 1927 Denver CO
      m ?who?
      1 ch:
      James Wesley BIGGER
      b 1891; was living in Blue Island, IL in 1980
      2. John BIGGER
      m 14 Jun 1779 Louisa Co, VA Mildred FERGUSON
      3. James BIGGER
      b c1740s; I am not sure if he served in the Revolutionary
      War; lived in Bearskin Creek, near Chatham,
      Pittsylvania Co, VA
      d by 1833
      m ?who?
      6 ch (at least):
      1. probably Robert BIGGERS
      m 11 Jan 1795 Pittsylvania Co, VA Betsey W. MATTHEWS
      2. probably William BIGGERS
      m 8 Oct 1804 Pittsylvania Co, VA Polley V. THOMAS
      3. Margaret (Peggy) BIGGERS
      b ? Her husband died on a slave trading expedition
      and she went back to Bearskin Creek, near Chatham,
      Pittsylvania Co, VA to live. She had been living
      in KY. James BIGGERS' 140 acres of land, by a
      court commission, was conveyed on 18 Nov 1833 to
      John, Mary, and Elizabeth BIGGERS, brothers and
      sisters of Margaret BIGGERS. They never married
      and after their death, the land was conveyed to
      Barsilla James COWHERD, son of Buford and Margaret
      COWHERD.
      d c1858
      m 11 Dec 1821 Washington Co KY Buford COWHERD
      4. John BIGGER never married
      5. Mary BIGGERS never married
      6. Elizabeth BIGGERS never married
      4. Sarah BIGGER
      b c1763
      m 11 Sep 1783 Goochland Co, VA George MORRIS although both
      were from Louisa Co, VA {RNH note: This marriage I
      have found in "The Douglas Register--An Index of
      Goochland Wills..." where Sarah is shown as "Sally."
      One thing to remember when working with "The Douglas
      Register"--it did not necessarily mean the individuals
      lived in Goochland Co, or that the event occurred in
      Goochland. Reverend Douglas wrote down many life
      events if people asked him to do it. They wanted a
      record made of the event, regardless of where it took
      place or where they lived. Sarah BIGGER and George
      MORRIS could have m in Louisa Co, as that's where they
      lived.}
      5. Mary BIGGER
      m John MADDESON/MADISON
      6. Macon BIGGER {male}
      m 22 Jul 1779 Louisa Co, VA Christian POINDEXTER or
      GISSADE They lived in Spotsylvania Co, VA in 1784;
      Orange Co, VA and Goochland Co, VA in the 1780s.
      3 ch:
      1. Hulday BIGGER
      b 17 May 1783
      m 6 Dec 1799 Orange Co, VA Gabriel KING
      2. Phebe BIGGER
      b c1780s
      m 17 Jan 1810 Orange Co, VA Hamlet SANFORD
      3. Betsy Smith BIGGER
      b 22 Apr 1785
      m 30 Dec 1808 Orange Co, VA Thorton TUCKER
      7. Eleanor BIGGER
      m David TERRY
      3. Susannah BIGGER (probable daughter)
      b c1725/35
      m John BIBB of Goochland Co, VA
      4. John BIGGER (probable son)
      b c1725 Spotsylvania Co, VA He purchased land in Prince
      Edward Co, VA in 1749. He appears to have gone from
      Spotsylvania Co, VA in 1745 to Prince Edward Co, VA.
      There is a close relationship between his children
      and those Susannah BIGGER BIBB. That is why I believe
      that they are brother and sister.
      d 1814
      m Elizabeth CARY
      10 ch:
      1. Mary BIGGER
      m 4 Feb 1803 Prince Edward Co, VA William STEGER
      2. Elizabeth H. C. BIGGER
      m 18 Nov 1806 Prince Edward Co, VA Samuel SCOTT
      3. Salley H. BIGGER
      m 17 Mar 1816 Prince Edward Co, VA John A. WATSON
      4. Andrew BIGGER
      5. John BIGGER Jr
      d aft 18 Mar 1782
      m 4 May 1769 Amelia Co, VA Martha BOOKER, she m#2
      4 Sep 1782 Prince Edward Co, VA Charles HUDSON
      6. William C. BIGGER
      7. Joseph BIGGER
      m 10 Jan 1787 Amelia Co, VA Elizabeth MACON
      8. James BIGGER
      m ?who?
      3 ch:
      1. Betsy Coleman BIGGER
      b c1780s
      m 12 Jan 1808 Prince Edward Co, VA Simon HUGHES
      2. Susanna BIGGER
      b c1780s
      m 16 Mar 1807 Prince Edward Co, VA Thomas RICE
      3. Mary (Polly) BIGGER
      b c1780s
      m 15 Apr 1806 Prince Edward Co, VA John CARTER
      9. Tommy BIGGER
      m ?who?
      2 ch:
      1. Lucy S. BIGGER
      b c1780s
      m 19 Jan 1807 Prince Edward Co, VA George BELL
      2. Margaret E. BIGGER
      b c1800
      m 28 Nov 1825 Prince Edward Co, VA Amos LONGWORTHY
      10. Susannah BIGGER
      m Mr. WADKINS

      * * * *
      MISCELLANEOUS BIGGER(S) INFORMATION:

      Mary BIGGER m Julius ALLEN 11 Oct 1768 Henrico Co, VA.

      Will BIGGER and Martha RICHARDSON, daughter Polly born 13 Oct 1781,
      son Landie born 20 Sep 1785. They lived in KY by 1820.

      William BIBB and Eliz. BIGGARS, son Baggars born 2 May 1783.

      Martha BIGGER married to Samuel MORRIS

      Martha BIGGER married to Robert DOUGLAS

      Susannah BIGGER married to Richard CARTER

      William BIGGER on Payroll of Capt. John Morton's Company from
      28th June to 28th July 1776. He got 2 pounds.

      John Bell BIGGER had land in Hanover Co, VA in 1855.

      Sally C. BIGGER married William STEVENSON 9 Sep 1822 in Lunenburg
      Co, VA.

      David J. BIGGER married Mary E. ROBERTSON 18 Jan 1850 in Lunenburg
      Co, VA.

      Rev. Hugh JONES of Maryland in his will left a riding horse and
      saddle to Col. John BIGGER of Calvert Co, MD. Will dated 3 Jan
      1701 and proved 2 Feb 1701.

      Joseph BIGGER married Elizabeth MACON 10 January 1787.

      Edward BIGGER got land grant No. 2031 from the State of NC for
      Revolutionary War service (445 acres in TN).

      William D. BIGGER born 1810-11 in VA d c1881-1882. His mother
      and father were born in Virginia according to the 1880 census of
      Marshall Co, TN. He married Martha M. -- , born 1858 in TN; John
      Buford BIGGER born 1857 in TN; Cynthia Ann BIGGER born 1859 in TN;
      Drumanda BIGGERS born 1861 in TN; Andrew Joseph BIGGER born 1863
      in TN; John B. BIGGER born 1857 in TN; Jennie BIGGER born 1862 in
      TN. She married Mr. GARDNER.

      James BIGGAR went from Northern Ireland to Philadelphia between
      1730 and 1740. He went from Philadelphia to New Jersey and
      settled in Bethlehem Township, Hunterdon Co. He married a widow,
      Martha FLEMEN (FLEMING). She had three children by her first
      marriage. James BIGGAR's will was dated 23 May 1756 in Bethlehem,
      Hunterdon Co, NJ. Children by Martha FLEMING: John born 1760;
      Martha born 1769; and William born 1777. There were other child-
      ren but the three above named were the only ones who came to
      Canada... There was another son, Robert BIGGER who stayed in NJ.

      Lieut. James M. JOHNSTON succeeded to the command by promotion...
      25th of March 1825 became Captain...The Subatterns at this period
      were Lieutenant Thomas B. BIGGER and ...In July 1829, Capt.
      JOHNSTON and Lieut. BIGGER both resigned their commissions... the
      company elected Thomas B. BIGGER, who had been their 1st Lieut. in
      1829, as Captain. His commission is dated 26th April 1832. Capt.
      BIGGER was one of the survivors of that gallant band of Petersburg
      volunteers, who rendered such distinguished services at Fort Meigs
      during the last war. ...Capt. BIGGER served as Captain more than
      7 years.

      Pittsylvania Co, VA:
      John BIGGER married Martha R. BIGGER Date of bond 9 Jan 1837,
      Bondsman: William C. BIGGER.

      Columbus C. TINSLEY married Mary E. C. BIGGER Date of bond
      14 Sep 1840, Bondsman: William C. BIGGER.

      James HERNDON married Elizabeth BIGGERS 28 Mar 1832, Elizabeth
      BIGGERS is the mother of Elizabeth BIGGERS.

      Rowan Co, NC:
      Buried at Bethpage Presbyterian Church, 3 miles west of Kannapolis
      on the road to Davidson: Elizabeth BIGGER who died 3 Sep 1841,
      aged 29 years, 7 mos & 17 days

      Hanover Co, VA:
      John Bell BIGGER had land in Hanover Co, VA in 1855

      Louisa Co, VA:
      Pleasant CARPENTER and Patsey BIGGERS, daughter of John BIGGERS,
      were married 13 Dec 1803.

      Robert DOUGLASS married Martha BIGGER 15 Jan 1772.

      James DUKE married Nancey BIGGERS 28 Dec 1806.

      George MORRIS married Salley BIGGER. William BIGGER gives consent
      for Salley. Surety: James BIGGER. Married 11 Sep 1783 by
      Rev. William Douglas.

      Samuel MORRIS married Martha BIGGERS 27 Aug 1791.

      Barnabas LIPSCOMBS and Polly BIGGERS, daughter of Miles S. BIGGERS
      married 2 Feb 1804. Witness: William BIGGERS.

      John BIGGER married 14 Jun 1779 to Mildred FERGUSON

      Resa Hennings

  • Sources 
    1. [S54] DAR, http://services.dar.org/members/dar_research/search_descendants/?action=list&MyPrimary_Seqn=500110&MyLineageCount=1.
      James Whitehead born on - - 1806 at _____ died at ____ on - - 1881 and his 1st wife Louisa Henry Scott born on - - 1811 at ____ died at _________ on - - 1836 married on 3 - Mar - 1830

      5. The Said Louisa Henry Scott was the child of
      Samuel Scott born on - - 1785 at ____
      died at ______on - - and his 1st wife Elizabeth H C Bigger born on - - 1788 at _________ died at __________ on - - married on 18 - Nov - 1806

      6. The Said Samuel Scott was the child of
      William Scott born on 3 - Dec - 1757 at Ireland died at Pr Edward Co VA on 13 - Sep - 1842 and his 1st wife Mary Baker born on - - at ______
      died at ____ on - - married on 18 Dec 1782