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Family: James Thomas Carter / Elizabeth 'Eliza' Hill (F22723)  [1, 2

m. 24 Mar 1890


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  • James Thomas CarterFather | Male
    James Thomas Carter

    Born  3 Apr 1842  South Boston, Halifax Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Died  26 Aug 1943  Turbeville, Halifax Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Buried    Crossroads Cemetery, Halifax County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Married  24 Mar 1890  Halifax County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Other Spouse  Carolyn H. Wesley | F22721 
    Married  20 Dec 1865  Halifax County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Other Spouse  Laura Ann Hancock | F518495316 
    Married  16 Jul 1902  Halifax County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Father  James Thomas Carter | F22722 Group Sheet 
    Mother  Martha McCann | F22722 Group Sheet 

    Elizabeth 'Eliza' HillMother | Female
    Elizabeth 'Eliza' Hill

    Born  1856  Halifax Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Died  1900  Crossroads Cemetery, Halifax County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Buried     
    Father  James Ludson Hill | F7320 Group Sheet 
    Mother  Martha Jane Traynham | F7320 Group Sheet 

    Child 1 | Female
    + Lillian Carter

    Born  17 Jul 1891  Sutherlin, Halifax County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Died  14 Jul 1970  Halifax County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Buried    Olive Branch Cemetery, Alton, Halifax County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Spouse  Edward Lewis Tulloh | F518495050 
    Married  14 Oct 1920  Halifax County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location

    Edward Palmer CarterChild 2 | Male
    + Edward Palmer Carter

    Born  31 Dec 1898  Sutherlin, Halifax County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Died  5 Feb 1964  Sutherlin, Halifax County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Buried    Highland Burial Park, Danville, Pittsylvania, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Spouse  Mary Cornelia Crane | F518495048 
    Married  21 May 1921  Reidsville, North Carolina Find all individuals with events at this location

    James Hill CarterChild 3 | Male
    + James Hill Carter

    Born  28 Apr 1894  Alton, Halifax Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Died  28 Feb 1961  Arlington, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Buried    Historyland Memorial Park, King George Co., Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Spouse  Martha Price Williams | F2303 
    Married     

  • Sources 
    1. [S240] Lineage, Stephanie Pletcher (nee Bartusek).

    2. [S170] Family Tree DNA.
      Stephanie Pletcher, Mar 8, 2020, 2:38 PM
      to me
      Take a look at this!Begin forwarded message:
      > From: JAMES GUTHRIE
      > Date: March 8, 2020 at 1:43:16 PM EDT
      > To: Stephanie Pletcher
      > Subject: Re: Guthries Lines
      >
      > Hi Stephanie!
      >
      > As I mentioned to you, I believe, I am the co-administrator of the Guthrie Project at FamilyTreeDNA. My immediate group in the project is Group 8A, Halifax County, VA. We are descendants of Thomas Guthrie (who left his will in that county in 1786) and wife, Mary Cason.
      >
      > Andrew Garland "Andy" Carter is a Carter by name only and, genetically, a Guthrie. There are several ways that could have happened but adoption is the usual method. I compared Andy's 37 marker DNA profile to mine and we match 35 of 37 genetic markers.; an indication at that level that we are of the same family. Most of the members of Group 8A have tested at the 111 marker level so it is hard to make a call on Any Carter. Occasionally, people have matches at 37 markers and fall completely away by the 67 marker level. I hate to ask people to spend more money on these projects but in this case, Andy really needs to advance his Y-DNA evaluation to 67 markers and, if possible, ideally to the 111 marker level (the highest level). As you probably know, the higher the number, the more refined the discrimination. 37 markers would indicate that he is part of the Group 8A family but not of which branch. Testing at a higher levels would indicate the branch because the project has participants at all the known branches.
      >
      > Halifax County, Virginia is a very tricky slope for genealogists because there were three Guthrie lines in the county. Genetically, none of the three were related. Briefly (about 1820) there were FOUR Guthrie lines in the county but the short term individual married a woman there, remained for a short while, and then left for parts unknown.
      >
      > If you are in contact with a small group of Andy's Carter descent, maybe you all can get together and have Andy's Y-DNA profile increased so that we can determine your origins with the branches. Some stayed in Halifax, some went to Kentucky, some to Tennessee, and some to Mississippi. I suspect you have Carter research and it is certainly good back to when the name change took place. I would put the deep Carter research on pause for the time being until we get this connection done.
      >
      > I think Andy has signed up for Family Finder and it would be in progress by now. Had I known earlier, I would have advised him not to do that testing because of its usefulness or lack thereof. In his case, the money would have been better spent upgrading his Y-DNA.
      >
      > See if you can get some participation to move up Andy's profile since there appears to be several of you that would share the same descent. Financially, he may be able to do the higher testing himself but it's always good to have a back-up plan.
      >
      > Regards,
      >
      > James Guthrie