Judith of Lickinghole Carter

Notes:

Birth:
Judith of the Lickinghole Survey

Judith married Charles 'of Goochland' Carter 24 Jan 1756, Cumberland Co., Virginia. Charles (son of Robert Carter and Mary Susannah Baynes) was born 19 Apr 1752, Cumberland County, Virginia; died 1 Feb 1777, Goochland Co., Virginia. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Married:
Children of Judith of Lickinghole And Charles Carter
Sally Carter b: ~1759 in Virginia
Martin Carter b: ~1763 in Virginia
Judith "Juday" Carter b: 1765 in Virginia
Jacob Carter b: 1766 in Virginia
Martha "Patty" Carter b: 1768 in Virginia
Jesse Carter b: ~1770 in Virginia
William Carter b: ~1772 in Virginia
Elizabeth "Betty" Carter b: ~1774 in Virginia
Molly Carter b: ~1776 in Virginia

1. William W. Carter was born Abt 1772, Cumberland County, Virginia; died 2 Sep 1826, Goochland County, Virginia.

Notes:

Have discovered Thomas in the DAR Patriot Index, b. 19 June
1753, d. 9 Feb 1825. Marriage Record in Early Virginia
Marriages by Southern Book Co., 1953, lists marriage as 21
Nov 1771. A Family Bible of Thomas' son, John W. Carter,
gives Thomas' parents as Thomas Carter and Mary Kilpatrick.
Their marriage is in the Douglas Register, page 14,
indicating that the marriage was recorded on pages 21-26 of
the Parish Register of Goochland begun ANNO 1756 by William
Douglas, Minister.

Thomas Carter Jr. was named as 'second son' in his father's will, received a yearling calf, and probably lived on his father's land until about 1730. In Sept. 1730, he received a land grant on Licking Hole and Bolings Creeks, described as 'on branches of said river, falling into the Rock Castle
lowgrounds'. This land was located north of the James River, but was directly across from the Carter properties on Muddy Creek. In 1736 Thomas Jr. was granted land along Turkey Cocke Creek in what became Cumberland Co. He willed this land to his eldest son, Thomas. The will was made in Goochland Co. in February 1760, and filed there in April 1763. Nothing is known of his first marriage(s)-but he had married a Mary Killipatrick in 1751. His will also noted then wife, Mary, and sons; John, Josiah, Baynes, and 'my three younger daughters'; Mary Dawson, Judith and Susanna Carter. Josiah Carter inherited a 150 acre tract, part of the land north of the James River; his brother John received an adjacent 125 acres of the same 'Ballows land'

Both Thomas Sr. and Jr. are shown on the 1787 Census for Pittsylvania Co., VA


http://nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/virginia1750.html
1751 Thomas Carter Mary Kilpatrick Goochland Douglas

Thomas married Mary Carrell/Carroll 24 Jan 1756, St. James, Goochland Co., Virginia. Mary was born Abt 1737, Goochland, Virginia Colony; died 1806, Goochland County, Virginia . [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Another Thomas Carter married Mary Kilipatrick.

Name:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tcarter1738&id=I854
Mary Carroll, d/o Roger

Notes:

[Proved to be another Thomas Carter 1753-1825 R1b]
Note from Mike Terry Administrator of FTDNA Carter
"Mike Terry

Tue, Apr 23, 2019

to Dick
Out of intellectual curiosity I ordered the DAR record for the descendant of Thomas Carter b 1753 of Lancaster Co Virginia.
I also have Fold3 and reviewed his RW pension papers which were submitted to court in 1818 in Lancaster County, Virginia. Citation: Thomas Carter S.40038 Certificate of Pension. According to the DAR application, Thomas Carter 1753 is shown to have died in 1825 in Hanover County, Virginia and there is a Thomas Carter in the 1810 and 1820 census in Hanover County.
The DAR application shows Thomas Carter wife as Caty per the Bible record and the registrar crossed this out and entered Elizabeth Dogget. This application was dated 1975 so it is fairly recent. There are no reservations or red lines on the application. DAR prohibits sharing the application;
however, I can discuss what it says and does not say from an academic perspective.
I am not sure how many DAR applications there are on sons of Thomas Carter = Katherine Dale. I think Peter Carter is listed in their DAR lines... I think it may be red lined because of the questions about the wife.
Whether the wife is Caty _____ or Elizabeth Dogget is of no import as far as the yDNA patrilineal line is concerned. The yDNA is showing a definite genetic connection to the Thomas Carter = Katherine Dale male Carter's and at least three of them have 500 STR markers and one has 700 STR markers.
I think it would be appropriate to list Thomas Carter b 1753 as a separate line in your database and note this line is a very strong ydna 111 marker match to the Thomas Carter = Katherine Dale line. They share a common ancestor prior to 1753 obviously.
I checked the DAR website and there is an application for Thomas Carter 1753-1825 patriot and some of the same family members listed in the same family line as the noted in the Carter DNA project in question at least for the males in the line. The wife is not the same though as listed in the Bible record I sent. You can order the file but they won't send any vital records with the application unless the person has been deceased for 100 years. They state they did not keep records until after 1984. I think you should be able verify most of it though for the later generations in Upshur County WV. The people are listed on the synopsis which is public. So I am guessing they are deceased.
Mike Terry
Mon, Apr 22, 2019
to me
Kilpatrick not listed not Kincade... In the Bible record
http://services.dar.org/Public/DAR_Research/search_descendants/?action=list&MyPrimary_Seqn=484789&MyLineageCount=1

Charles Carter [charlescarter103 AT gmail.com] Geno 2.0 transfer Kit # B8566 includes Family Finder shows as confirmed terminal SNP Q-F1161 Group Q-01 NOT HIS LINE

Name:
Q-01 Q-M242; 365635 Carter; Capt. Thomas Carter, Sr, Lancaster, VA 1672

Thomas married Susanna Merry. Susanna (daughter of William Merry and Jane, Mrs. William Merry) was born Est 1675; died b 1726, Goochland Co., Virginia. [Group Sheet]

William married Jane, Mrs. William Merry. Jane, was born Est 1640, Virginia Colony; died Yes, date unknown. [Group Sheet]