Rachael/Rachel Carter

Notes:

Other Children born to Mary Anthony and Josiah Carter are John, 7 May 1786; Daniel, 1 Apr 1788; Nancy, 22 Feb 1790; and James, 3 Apr 1792; William, abt 1791; and Judith, 3 Feb 1794; were born between 1785-1792 in Green Co., or Warren County, Georgia.

Beginning in the early 1770's, there was a migration of families from the Goochland County and surrounding area to southwest Virginia. Descendants of these families (Carter, Atkins(on), Dillon, Callaway, Tatum, Anthony, Bowman, Stoval, and others) can still be found in the beautiful and remote hills of Patrick and Henry Counties today. Baynes Carter and his brothers Josiah and John, third generation Carters, were among the early settlers who made their way south and west for better opportunities and more productive land.

Josiah Carter's Family Bible record shows the birth of seven children that lived during the time they were in Virginia, the seventh (Christopher) being born in 1782. In the next year (April, 1784) Josiah Carter swore in Georgia that he had seven children. On 7-21-1784, he swore that he had never received any land grants and that he had exclusive of himself and wife, seven children and eight negroes. That this Josiah is the same as the Henry County family is the close association of the Anthony's and Carter's both in Virginia and in Georgia...

Just three years later, Baynes Carter (age 22) and his brother Josiah, along with other citizens of Henry County, Virginia, were called upon to renounce their allegiance to Great Britain and swear their allegiance to the Commonwealth of Virginia. Their signatures appear on the on 30 August 1777 list of Edmond Lyne, Esquire. This demonstrates that both men supported the impending Revolution and qualifies their descendants for membership in the Sons and Daughters of the American Revolution. Josiah is also recorded in the Virginia Publick Claims for Henry County as being reimbursed for provisions supporting the war:

Josiah married Mary Menges 'Mollie' Anthony 26 Jun 1771, Bedford Co., Virginia. Mary (daughter of Joseph Anthony, Sr. and Elizabeth Clark) was born 17 Nov 1754, Albermarle, Virginia Colony; died 22 Jul 1820, Hancock County, Georgia. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Other Children born to Mary Anthony and Josiah Carter are John, Daniel, William, Judith, Nancy A. and James were born between 1785-1792 in Green Co., or Warren County, Georgia.

Name:
Her middle name is reported as Menges

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Married:
Children
Joseph 1772
Elizabeth 1774
Sarah 1776
Mary 1777
Joseph 1778
Thomas 1780
Christopher Anthony 1782
Rachel 1784 (1st one born Ga)
John W 1786
Daniel 1788
Nancy A 1790
James 1792
Judith 1794

Notes:

Have discovered Thomas in the DAR Patriot Index, b. 19 June
1753, d. 9 Feb 1825. Marriage Record in Early Virginia
Marriages by Southern Book Co., 1953, lists marriage as 21
Nov 1771. A Family Bible of Thomas' son, John W. Carter,
gives Thomas' parents as Thomas Carter and Mary Kilpatrick.
Their marriage is in the Douglas Register, page 14,
indicating that the marriage was recorded on pages 21-26 of
the Parish Register of Goochland begun ANNO 1756 by William
Douglas, Minister.

Thomas Carter Jr. was named as 'second son' in his father's will, received a yearling calf, and probably lived on his father's land until about 1730. In Sept. 1730, he received a land grant on Licking Hole and Bolings Creeks, described as 'on branches of said river, falling into the Rock Castle
lowgrounds'. This land was located north of the James River, but was directly across from the Carter properties on Muddy Creek. In 1736 Thomas Jr. was granted land along Turkey Cocke Creek in what became Cumberland Co. He willed this land to his eldest son, Thomas. The will was made in Goochland Co. in February 1760, and filed there in April 1763. Nothing is known of his first marriage(s)-but he had married a Mary Killipatrick in 1751. His will also noted then wife, Mary, and sons; John, Josiah, Baynes, and 'my three younger daughters'; Mary Dawson, Judith and Susanna Carter. Josiah Carter inherited a 150 acre tract, part of the land north of the James River; his brother John received an adjacent 125 acres of the same 'Ballows land'

Both Thomas Sr. and Jr. are shown on the 1787 Census for Pittsylvania Co., VA


http://nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/virginia1750.html
1751 Thomas Carter Mary Kilpatrick Goochland Douglas

Thomas married Mary Carrell/Carroll 24 Jan 1756, St. James, Goochland Co., Virginia. Mary was born Abt 1737, Goochland, Virginia Colony; died 1806, Goochland County, Virginia . [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Another Thomas Carter married Mary Kilipatrick.

Name:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tcarter1738&id=I854
Mary Carroll, d/o Roger

Joseph married Elizabeth Clark 27 Apr 1741, New Kent Co., Virginia Colony. Elizabeth (daughter of Christopher Clark and Penelope Johnston) was born Est 1720, Hanover Co., Virginia Colony; died 1825, Wilkes Co., Georgia. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Died:
She lived to be about 105 years old.

Notes:

[Proved to be another Thomas Carter 1753-1825 R1b]
Note from Mike Terry Administrator of FTDNA Carter
"Mike Terry

Tue, Apr 23, 2019

to Dick
Out of intellectual curiosity I ordered the DAR record for the descendant of Thomas Carter b 1753 of Lancaster Co Virginia.
I also have Fold3 and reviewed his RW pension papers which were submitted to court in 1818 in Lancaster County, Virginia. Citation: Thomas Carter S.40038 Certificate of Pension. According to the DAR application, Thomas Carter 1753 is shown to have died in 1825 in Hanover County, Virginia and there is a Thomas Carter in the 1810 and 1820 census in Hanover County.
The DAR application shows Thomas Carter wife as Caty per the Bible record and the registrar crossed this out and entered Elizabeth Dogget. This application was dated 1975 so it is fairly recent. There are no reservations or red lines on the application. DAR prohibits sharing the application;
however, I can discuss what it says and does not say from an academic perspective.
I am not sure how many DAR applications there are on sons of Thomas Carter = Katherine Dale. I think Peter Carter is listed in their DAR lines... I think it may be red lined because of the questions about the wife.
Whether the wife is Caty _____ or Elizabeth Dogget is of no import as far as the yDNA patrilineal line is concerned. The yDNA is showing a definite genetic connection to the Thomas Carter = Katherine Dale male Carter's and at least three of them have 500 STR markers and one has 700 STR markers.
I think it would be appropriate to list Thomas Carter b 1753 as a separate line in your database and note this line is a very strong ydna 111 marker match to the Thomas Carter = Katherine Dale line. They share a common ancestor prior to 1753 obviously.
I checked the DAR website and there is an application for Thomas Carter 1753-1825 patriot and some of the same family members listed in the same family line as the noted in the Carter DNA project in question at least for the males in the line. The wife is not the same though as listed in the Bible record I sent. You can order the file but they won't send any vital records with the application unless the person has been deceased for 100 years. They state they did not keep records until after 1984. I think you should be able verify most of it though for the later generations in Upshur County WV. The people are listed on the synopsis which is public. So I am guessing they are deceased.
Mike Terry
Mon, Apr 22, 2019
to me
Kilpatrick not listed not Kincade... In the Bible record
http://services.dar.org/Public/DAR_Research/search_descendants/?action=list&MyPrimary_Seqn=484789&MyLineageCount=1

Charles Carter [charlescarter103 AT gmail.com] Geno 2.0 transfer Kit # B8566 includes Family Finder shows as confirmed terminal SNP Q-F1161 Group Q-01 NOT HIS LINE

Name:
Q-01 Q-M242; 365635 Carter; Capt. Thomas Carter, Sr, Lancaster, VA 1672

Thomas married Susanna Merry. Susanna (daughter of William Merry and Jane, Mrs. William Merry) was born Est 1675; died b 1726, Goochland Co., Virginia. [Group Sheet]

Christopher married Penelope Johnston. Penelope (daughter of Edward Johnston and Elizabeth Walker) was born Est 1684, St. Peter's Parish, New Kent Co., Virginia; died Aft 1734, Louisa Co., Virginia. [Group Sheet]