Thomas of Oglethorpe Carter

Notes:

Name:
Charles Carter [charlescarter103 AT gmail.com] Geno 2.0 transfer Kit # B8566 includes Family Finder shows as confirmed terminal SNP Q-F1161 Group Q-01

Thomas married Hicksey/Hixey Carter 9 Mar 1813, Oglethorpe Co., Georgia. Hicksey/Hixey was born Abt 1792, Virginia; died 1860, Polk Co., Georgia. [Group Sheet]

1. James Carter was born 1824, Oglethorpe Co., Georgia; died 9 Apr 1867, Polk Co., Georgia.

Thomas married Mary Mrs. Thomas 'of Mecklenburg' Carter. Mary was born Est 1745, Mecklenburg Co., Virginia; died Yes, date unknown, Mecklenburg Co., Virginia. [Group Sheet]

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Died:
Date of Will Probate

Robert married Mary Susannah Baynes. Mary was born Est 1685, Goochland County, Virginia Colony; died 11 Feb 1726, Goochland County, Virginia Colony. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Have discovered Thomas in the DAR Patriot Index, b. 19 June
1753, d. 9 Feb 1825. Marriage Record in Early Virginia
Marriages by Southern Book Co., 1953, lists marriage as 21
Nov 1771. A Family Bible of Thomas' son, John W. Carter,
gives Thomas' parents as Thomas Carter and Mary Kilpatrick.
Their marriage is in the Douglas Register, page 14,
indicating that the marriage was recorded on pages 21-26 of
the Parish Register of Goochland begun ANNO 1756 by William
Douglas, Minister. (Fay Parrish Wade of the Carter Society
of Virginia has a transcription of this bible).

Thomas Carter was born 19 June 1753 VA and he died 9 Feb
1825 VA. He married Elizabeth Doggett 21 Nov 1771. Looking
for ancestors of both Thomas & Elizabeth. Thomas served in
the Revolutionary War.

Holly Carter Dunlap of Georgia:
This Thomas Carter is not "my" Thomas Carter of Mecklenburg
County, Virginia but a lot people have confused this Thomas Carter with "my" Thomas Carter so I'm posting this database of the Kilpatrick family and this Thomas Carter in the hopes it will bring some clarification. I don't know if the Thomas Carter & Miss Kilpatrick (daughter of Alexander Kilpatrick) are the same couple as the Thomas Carter & Mary
Killypatrick who married in Goochland County, Virginia in
1751 or not. More research needs to be done here.

1. In 1720 Thomas Carter purchased [Henrico COB
719-1724/242] 100a in Henrico County, Virginia on the north side of the James River at the east end of the Licking hole survey of John Woodson. Another 200a was deeded at the same time to Robert Carter , Charles Huddlesey and John Webb. These transactions are recorded in Henrico County COB 1719-1724 by the Feb Court of 1722. All of the participants in these transactions must have been born prior to 1700.

2. On 17 Aug 1725 at the cost of 35 shillings, a patent
[VPB 12/301] was issued for 327a to Robert Carter in
Henrico County on the south side of the James River
adjacent to Robert Hughes including 1 mile of river front
that encompasses the present day town of Cartersville. The
Carter tract joined the Hughes track at a corner ash on the
river that was described in the Hughes patent as being near
Huddlecey's fence. Although this Robert Carter was
involved in several other land transactions, he remained on
this parcel until his death in 1759 when this parcel of
land was devised to his son Charles.

3. On 2 Nov 1726 Thomas Carter signed a will that recited:
To eldest son Robert , 1 yearling cow
To 2nd son Thomas , 1 yearling cow
To son John , 1 shilling
To son Edward, 1 shilling
To daughter ElIzabeth Carter, 1 shlillng
To son Joseph, all land I live on, 100 acres, but if
he dies without Issue, then to my son Edward.
Personal estate to wife Penele, and she to be
executrix.
The will was signed with a full signature and was
witnessed by: Thomas Edwards, William Pledge, Dorothy (0)
Pledge.

4. On 18 Nov 1729 Robert Carter of St James Parish,
Goochland Co, deeded [DB 1/144] to Susannah Hulsey, widow,
of same Parish, for ?30 , 100 acres of land on north side
of James River between land of Henry Atkinson and John
Webb, with all houses, etc, being land where Charles Hulsey
did formerly dwell. Mary wife of Carter relinquished her
dower right [OB 1/177]. The deed was signed with a mark ?
and witnessed by: John Webb and Joseph Ashlin. In a deed
recorded on the same day Susannah conveyed this land
together with another 100a to son Charles Hulsey. She
signed this deed with a mark.

Thomas Carter Jr.'s Last Will and Testament was written 14
February 1760 and was recorded in Goochland County on 19
April 1763. If his sons were named in chronological order,
his oldest would have been Thomas [III], then John, then
Josiah, then Baynes. In his Will, Thomas Carter refers to
his ?Youngest sons, that is to say John Carter, Josiar
[sic] Carter, and Baynes Carter.? He also refers to his
wife Mary Carter. Mary may have been Mary Kilpatrick based
on the 1751 marriage recorded in the Douglas Register for
Thomas Carter to Mary Kilpatrick.
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Rebecca R. Dyer, Descendant of Baynes:
?In the name of God Amen, February 14th, 1760:
?To my Dear beloved son Baynes Carter the land I now live
on containing 225 acres with my house and plantation also
one middle sized Rone mare with a white spot in her face. .
.she and her increase forever also one new man's saddle and
bridle.?

Beginning in the early 1770's, there was a migration of
families from the Goochland County and surrounding area to
southwest Virginia. Descendants of these families (Carter,
Atkins(on), Dillon, Callaway, Tatum, Anthony, Bowman,
Stoval, and others) can still be found in the beautiful and
remote hills of Patrick and Henry Counties today. Baynes
Carter and his brothers Josiah and John, third generation
Carters, were among the early settlers who made their way
south and west for better opportunities and more productive
land.

A 1773 Goochland County deed shows Baynes Carter and his
widowed mother Mary, now of Pittsylvania County, selling
their home place to Samuel Coleman Morris. Beginning a year
or so prior to the sale of the Goochland County home place,
Baynes, Josiah and John had begun to leave records in
Pittsylvania, Bedford and Henry Counties.

In August of 1774, records show that Baynes Carter, about
age 18 or 19, received pay for 82 days service under Captain
Abraham Penn in the conflict between the Colony of Virginia
and the Native Americans of the Ohio Valley. This conflict,
Dunmore's War, was named for the Royal Governor of Virginia, Lord Dunmore, who organized a large militia to ultimately prevent the Delaware, Mingo, and Shawnee from settling or hunting south of the Ohio River. John Carter, an elder brother of Baynes, served in this conflict as well. Just three years later, Baynes Carter (age 22) and his
brother Josiah, along with other citizens of Henry County,
Virginia, were called upon to renounce their allegiance to
Great Britain and swear their allegiance to the
Commonwealth of Virginia. Their signatures appear on the on
30 August 1777 list of Edmond Lyne, Esquire. This
demonstrates that both men supported the impending
Revolution and qualifies their descendants for membership
in the Sons and Daughters of the American Revolution.
Josiah is also recorded in the Virginia Publick Claims for
Henry County as being reimbursed for provisions supporting
the war:

Monday, 06 May 1782: 5s-6 for 3 diets, 1 bu corn, 1 peck
do. Furnished Hugh Armstrong on march to General Greene
with county lead; 4s-6 for 150 bundles fodder furnished
Jacob Gore quarter master Genl. 1st Regt, Light Dragoons;
10s for 4 bu corn meal furnished a guard with British
prisoners on march from the southward to Winchester; 12s
for 3 bu rye for 4 teams on return from Charlotte in North
Carolina to Peytonsburg by cert. from Wm. McCraw ADQM.

Friday, 24 May 1782: 42s for a saddle impressed for
hospital at Henry Courthouse & lost.

Few records have surfaced on Baynes Carter but we know that
he purchased ?sundries? at the estate sale of John Hail in
Pittsylvania County (Inventory recorded 26 September 1774).
He also served as a guard for his county in 1777: ?Henry
County Levy is made to Baines [sic] Carter, guarding, same
5 days.? On 21 July 1778, Henry County deeds show Josiah
Carter conveying and selling to his brother Baynes 89 ?
acres of land crossing Little Reedy Creek and Reed Creek to
the mouth of said creek on Smith River. Over the next few
years, several other Henry County land transactions are
recorded concerning Baynes Carter. In 1780, Josiah Carter
transferred some of his Reedy Creek property to his brother
Baynes due to damages sustained by Baynes resulting from a
grist mill operation. [This land is located near the
present-day intersection of Route 220 and State Route 57
between Bassett and Collinsville, Virginia. Josiah Carter?s
grist mill was still standing there as of !
1920.] About the time Josiah Carter transferred the Reedy
Creek property to his brother Baynes, Josiah, along with a
contingent of other Henry County, Virginia, families,
migrated farther south to the state of Georgia.

It's not until a land transaction on 24 June 1784 that we
learn Baynes Carter has a wife: Baynes Carter and his wife
Martha sell 221 acres of land on Reed Creek to George
Hairston*. To date no marriage record or bond has been
found and Martha's surname remains unknown, but other
records conclude that Baynes and Martha had been married at
least 10 years by this time. In 1788, just a few years
after the sale of the 221 acres of land, Baynes Carter
passed away, leaving a widow and a son Jesse, age 13.

Notes:

[Proved to be another Thomas Carter 1753-1825 R1b]
Note from Mike Terry Administrator of FTDNA Carter
"Mike Terry

Tue, Apr 23, 2019

to Dick
Out of intellectual curiosity I ordered the DAR record for the descendant of Thomas Carter b 1753 of Lancaster Co Virginia.
I also have Fold3 and reviewed his RW pension papers which were submitted to court in 1818 in Lancaster County, Virginia. Citation: Thomas Carter S.40038 Certificate of Pension. According to the DAR application, Thomas Carter 1753 is shown to have died in 1825 in Hanover County, Virginia and there is a Thomas Carter in the 1810 and 1820 census in Hanover County.
The DAR application shows Thomas Carter wife as Caty per the Bible record and the registrar crossed this out and entered Elizabeth Dogget. This application was dated 1975 so it is fairly recent. There are no reservations or red lines on the application. DAR prohibits sharing the application;
however, I can discuss what it says and does not say from an academic perspective.
I am not sure how many DAR applications there are on sons of Thomas Carter = Katherine Dale. I think Peter Carter is listed in their DAR lines... I think it may be red lined because of the questions about the wife.
Whether the wife is Caty _____ or Elizabeth Dogget is of no import as far as the yDNA patrilineal line is concerned. The yDNA is showing a definite genetic connection to the Thomas Carter = Katherine Dale male Carter's and at least three of them have 500 STR markers and one has 700 STR markers.
I think it would be appropriate to list Thomas Carter b 1753 as a separate line in your database and note this line is a very strong ydna 111 marker match to the Thomas Carter = Katherine Dale line. They share a common ancestor prior to 1753 obviously.
I checked the DAR website and there is an application for Thomas Carter 1753-1825 patriot and some of the same family members listed in the same family line as the noted in the Carter DNA project in question at least for the males in the line. The wife is not the same though as listed in the Bible record I sent. You can order the file but they won't send any vital records with the application unless the person has been deceased for 100 years. They state they did not keep records until after 1984. I think you should be able verify most of it though for the later generations in Upshur County WV. The people are listed on the synopsis which is public. So I am guessing they are deceased.
Mike Terry
Mon, Apr 22, 2019
to me
Kilpatrick not listed not Kincade... In the Bible record
http://services.dar.org/Public/DAR_Research/search_descendants/?action=list&MyPrimary_Seqn=484789&MyLineageCount=1

Charles Carter [charlescarter103 AT gmail.com] Geno 2.0 transfer Kit # B8566 includes Family Finder shows as confirmed terminal SNP Q-F1161 Group Q-01 NOT HIS LINE

Name:
Q-01 Q-M242; 365635 Carter; Capt. Thomas Carter, Sr, Lancaster, VA 1672

Thomas married Susanna Merry. Susanna (daughter of William Merry and Jane, Mrs. William Merry) was born Est 1675; died b 1726, Goochland Co., Virginia. [Group Sheet]