Thomas Carter

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The difficulty of tracing the genealogical ramifications of this numerous Lancaster county family- is enhanced by the fact that it sprang from two fountain-heads, Col. John Carter of "Corrotoman" and Capt. Thomas Carter of "Barford". These gentlemen were undoubtedly related. The following notes, which are confined to the points of contact of the Carters and Paynes, are based on Court records, on articles in W .M., on the excellent Carter Genealogy by Dr. Joseph Lyon Miller, and on my correspondence with members of my family related to the Carters. George Payne (3) m. Sarah, dau. of Mr. John Carter of We. Co. and w. Anne Claytor. Mr. and Mrs. Carter had 11 children-Mary, m. Presley Neale < 1783; Robert, m. Mrs. Nancy Spilman 1795; Anne, m. David Annandale; ,Frances, Samuel, Jane, John, George, Richard, Lucy, and Presley; not chronologically arranged. John Carter, Sr., d. intestate 1782 in We. Co. I have not been able to trace his ancestry. His widow's will is dated 1789 (1789). Presley Neale's will is dated 1815 (1815); his dau. Nancy m. James Payne(C-V-IO).
CARTER, ANN, 5 Jan. 1789; 31 Mch. 1789. SONS Robert, Samuel, John and George; Daughters Ann Annadale, Sarah Payne, Mary Neale, Frances, Jane and Lucy Carter; Sons Presley and Richard; exors. Son in law Presley Neale and Daniel McCarty.
p.472 Will of Joseph Carter " PRINCE GEORGE CO RECORDS
To wIfe, various itams
To son John, items
To son Joseph, items
To son Richard, items
To daughter Ann, items
Son Richard to have hls liberty at 18 Sons John & Joseph to be execs May 8,1721; Wit. John Hamlln, John Wllkins, William Spiller Rec. June 13, 1721 Signed Joseph Carter
Wills of Rappahannock County. Virginia. 1656-1692

James married Hannah Neale 3 Oct 1715, Lancaster Co., Virginia. Hannah (daughter of Daniel Neale, Sr. and Elizabeth Holland) was born 12 Jul 1684, Northumberland County, Virginia; died 9 Oct 1722, Lancaster Co., Virginia. [Group Sheet]

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Recorded in the Bible of Thomas Carter of Barford
"Mrs Hannah Carter departed the Life on 9th Octo. 1722 and left a sorriful husband and 4 tender children Tho. Danl Presly & Hannah"

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I think it would be appropriate to list Thomas Carter b 1753 as a separate line in your database and note this line is a very strong ydna 111 marker match to the Thomas Carter = Katherine Dale line. They share a common ancestor prior to 1753 obviously.

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Thomas married Katherine Dale 4 May 1670, Lancaster Co., Virginia. Katherine (daughter of Major Edward Dale and Diana Skipwith) was born Abt 1630, Lancaster Co., Virginia; died 10 May 1703, Virginia. [Group Sheet]

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John Stewart, Longhunter 1744-1770
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Brothers John and Dale Carter along with their cousin Thomas Carter had settled on the north side of Clinch River near Blackmore's Fort about 1772. It was a tense time among the scattered settlers along the Clinch River. The Carter?s land grants were surveyed for them and entered in the Fincastle Survey Book on March 26, 1774.

On the same day, Logan, sent a raiding party against Fort Blackmore which secretly approached the fort and got within 75 yards before being discovered. Most of the men at Fort Blackmore were sitting on some logs a short distance from the gate. The Indians decided to make a bold push and enter the fort before the men could recover from their surprise. Creeping along the river bank, they were just ready to push into the fort when they were discovered by Dale Carter (1744-1774), who was about fifty-five steps from the fort and who cried, "Murder! Murder!"

Upon hearing Carter's alarm, the men (only ten militia men were actually stationed at Fort Blackmore) ran towards the fort and succeeded in reaching the gate before the Indians. Frustrated in their designs of entering the fort they turned upon Dale Carter. One Indian shot at him, but missed him; another shot him through the thigh, inflicting a wound which rendered him too lame to escape into the fort. Another Indian ran up to Carter, tomahawked and scalped him.

Meanwhile, John Carter b1752, brother of Dale Carter, and (later Colonel) John Anderson (1750-1817) serving as an ensign in the local militia attached to Blackmore's Fort left the security of the fort under fire to try to rescue a Dale Carter. Too late to prevent his death, they tried to prevent the Indian's scalping of the body. Anderson shot at the Indians who were involved in scalping the dead Carter, and John Carter shot at another. The Indians returned fire at narrowly missing both men. By this time, other men of the fort had climbed into the nearest bastion and had begun firing at the Indians. The Indians fled into the woods, free from pursuit due to the fort?s inadequate garrison.

Soon after Captains Daniel Boone (1734-1820) and Daniel Smith (1757-1824) brought thirty men to Fort Blackmore to track down the Indians. Near the fort they found many tracks, but the tracks were lost in the forest and the Indians were never captured.

As Captain David Looney (1735-1810) had been away from Fort Blackmore at his home near Kingsport at the time of Dale Carter's murder, the settlers at Fort Blackmore wanted a leader who lived nearby. They petitioned the highest officer in Fincastle County, Colonel William Preston (1730-1778), to make Daniel Boone a captain, and give him control of Fort Blackmore, Moore's Station, and Cowan's Fort. This petition was approved.

John Carter, brother of the Dale Carter, who was killed at Blackmore?s Fort in 1774, had settled on a 400 acre tract of land on the northwest side of Clinch River, about 4 miles below Blackmore?s Fort, in Scott County in the year 1773. He had married a daughter of Joseph Blackmore and had seven children.

One of the more tragic incidents in early Southwestern Virginia history was the death of Elizabeth Carter and her six children, by Indians in 1787. Plundering and setting fire to the Carter?s home, it reduced the bodies of his wife and children to ashes.

R. M. Addington, History of Scott County, page 99, says: In a short time after moving to his farm, having planted his crop, and completing such other preparations as were necessary to move back to the fort, he went out one morning to listen for his horses and cattle, which had bells on, intending to collect them up prior to moving back to Fort Blackmore on the next day. This was locust year, and he went out early in order to collect his stock before the locust began their noises. He had proceeded about sixty yards from his house when he heard his wife cry out, "Oh John". Turning he saw eight or nine Indians entering his house, and at the same time they fired at him. Realizing his perilous situation, he thought it best to make his escape and go for assistance, rather than fight and exasperate the savages in an unequal contest. Hastening to the fort, he collected a company and returned to his house, which he found in flames. With some poles, his companions succeeded in pulling out of the burning coals the charred remains of his wife and six children, which they buried. When they had done this, they heard a plaintive groaning a little ways from the house, in the weeds and grass. They went to the place from whence the sounds came and found his little daughter, about ten years of age, with an awful gash across her abdomen and her entrails falling out. They carried her to the river and washed her, but she died before they finished. (Judge Wood and Peter Honeycutt?s Letter, Draper MSS 4 C 27)

Image: Indian Scalping, Tussaud's Wax Museum, Niagara Falls
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Barbara Clogston Arnold Kit # A904224. My name is Barbara Arnold (maiden name Clogston). I am related to Thomas Carter Sr on my mother's paternal side. Jeraine Lloyd> Horace Lloyd> Oscar Carter Lloyd> William M Lloyd>Carter Jarrell Kelley> Francis C Carter> William M Carter> Soloman Carter> Peter Carter> Thomas Carter Jr> Thomas Carter Sr.

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Linda Dannette Carter Kryshtalowych; Trish Taylor, This may or may not be tied to your family. Thomas Carter b 1700 in Lancaster, VA married Sarah Haynie. They had a son, John Carter, who marred ??? Spencer. They had a son, Spencer Carter, b 1750, who had a son, Spencer II. Another son of John and Ms. Spencer was Thomas Preston Carter who married Susannah Gaines and had a son named Thomas Spencer Carter, b in Lancaster, VA and died in KY. Not a line I researched to any great extent but hope it helps with your search.
Linda Dannette Carter Kryshtalowych: Trish Taylor Since you have an ancestry account, go to the Search option then scroll down to Card Catalog. Then do a search for "The descendants of Capt. Thomas Carter of Bar, Lancaster, VA (descendants of John Carter of Lancaster) then find pages 48 & 49. Childrens names are listed and Meredith isn't among them but that's to say there wasn't a Meridith. The name could have been omitted for various reasons.

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Note in Bible; With this Book pr Rv Mr John Shepperd on Wednesday ye 4h Day of May 1670 was Mard Mr. Thomas Carter of Barford in ye County of Lancaster in Virga & Katherine Dale ye eldest Daughr of Mr. Edward Dale ye same county.

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Accomac Co., Virginia Abstracts note a Danl Neale and 'my wife Hellen' assign rights to bill of sale to Jas. Robinson, 22 Sep 1668 16.62

Danl. P of A. Ellen Neale to her husband Danl Neale of Fairfield per to ack sale of land to Rich Way. Wit: Xtophr Neale, Jno Upton. 21 Nov 1669. 16.105

Dan: Wit Will Henry Lambert. 31 Mar 1676. 16.72

Daniel 20 May 1671. Daniel. His wife ref to as 'Granny Neale' accused by Edward Coles of bewitching his Wife. The depositions in this case are among the most absurd that appear in Virginia records. 16.181

Dan'l Will. dated 4 Nov 1700. prob. 2 Feb 1700/1. To younger bro Ebenezer Neale 500 acres on Hulls Creek, also land Bartholomew Shephard now lives on. Sister Hannah Neale. 'my Mother in Law Mrs. Patience -'. Brother in Law Jno Cockrill. To 'my' Elizabeth dau of sd Jno Cockrill silver spoons marked D.N. To Andrew Cockrill 1000 lb tobacco for looking after him in sickness. Balance of est to be divided equally betw his own natural brothers and sisters. "my Cousin Mr. Christopher Neale' sole exor. Wit: Ann White, Eliz Amey and Jas Robert. The will recorded 16 Sep 1719 by Richard Lee.

Daniel Neal's daughter, Hannah ( d. 10/9/1722) md. James Carter (1684-10/24/1743 Overwharton Parish register, Stafford Co., VA) James carter was the son of Thomas Carter, Sr. of lancaster Co., VA and Katherine Dale.

Old family records reveal the following:
Lieutenant Daniel Neale married Ellen. A date of 1659 is given. This may be when they sailed from England.

Christopher Neale was born to them in 1644, he died in 1691. Christopher married Hannah Rodman and bore:
Daniel Neale III, who married Ursula Presley and bore:

Presley Neale, died 1749, Fairfax County, VA,who married Margaret and bore:

Richard Neale , died 1816, he was born prior to 1743 and married Frances Underwood prior to 7/7/1767. Their child:

Thomas Neale, born 1774; died 1834, married Margaret Winn and bore:
Harriet Neale, born 9/12/1793; died 6/22/1822. Harriet married John Hardin Neal,
5/11/1820 and bore:
Virginia Neal, born 12/12/1810;died 10/3/1849. She was my great great grandmother

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He is already married in 1668. Christopher signed Witness on Deed of sale to Dan; and wife Hellen/Ellen 21 Nov 1669. Christopher is probably his brother.

Daniel married Elizabeth Holland. Elizabeth (daughter of Daniel Holland and Joyce, Mrs. Daniel Holland) was born Est 1640; died Bef 1712, St Stephens Parish, Accomac Co., Virginia. [Group Sheet]

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Called Granny Neale in 1671

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Orphaned child Abner, s/o Daniel Neale

Edward married Diana Skipwith. Diana was born Est 1600, Henrico Co., Virginia; died Yes, date unknown. [Group Sheet]

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In February 1624, Accomack Plantation was represented at a stormy session of the General Assembly. Captain John Wilcox, overseer of the Company land, and HENRY WATKINS, overseer for Lady Dale, were the Burgesses.

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VIRGINIA COLONIAL ABSTRACTS, Transcript p.51, [Original p.71.Abstract] Bef 1637 John Neale 'aged 40th or thereabouts' sworne and examined sayeth that Mr. Burdett did accept of a debt of 200 lb of tobacco or thereabouts of Thomas Smith for vremstone Foster and the said Mr. Burdett tobacco was dew to be pad from JAMES DAVIS, this is all this depont can say.

Transcriptp.52 [Original p.71.] Mr. John Neale aged 40th or thereabouts swears he read Peter Varlow's indentures and that he was to have L 20. Sterling at expiration of his indentures some monyes but knoweth not how much this is all this depon't...


Accomac Co., VA Abstracts Transcript p.5; Abstract Bond. The 17th day of September 1633. Daniel Cugley L 100. Sterling John Neale L 100. Sterling That Cugley appear before the Gov and Council at James City to answer suit of George Scovell, Gent. Entry signed Obedience Robins.
NOTE: There are more that several entries concerning Daniel Cugley.

Accomac Co., VA Abstracts 1632-1637
Abstract Original p.112 Transcript p.81 Depo of Alex Mountney, age not shown. Says Phillip Taylor was to pay Mr. John Neale 20 bbl corn for a boat for a voyage up the Bay.

2 Apr 1633 Mr. Neale was levied taxes for a 'Boat'

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There is no evidence that this John Neale is the Father of Brothers Christopher and Daniel Neale. John Neale and wife Elizabeth are found in records of Accomac. He is taxed for a 'boat', and travels across the Bay.... It is likely that he is related, if not their Father.

John married Elizabeth Mrs. John Neale. Elizabeth was born Bef 1617, Ireland; died Yes, date unknown, St Stephens Parish, Accomac Co., Virginia. [Group Sheet]

Daniel married Joyce, Mrs. Daniel Holland. Joyce, was born Est 1630, St. Stephens Parish, Accomac County, Colonial Virginia; died Yes, date unknown, St Stephens Parish, Accomac Co., Virginia. [Group Sheet]

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Joyce is then referred to as Mother-in-law in Daniel's Will; Mrs. Patience Downing.